Throttle body injection
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Throttle body injection
This might be one of those personal preference thingies but I was wondering about the TBI on my 2000 Ranger 3.0 liter. What was the thinking there? Why would Ford have opted for the TBI rather than Fuel Injection or a straight carburator? While my past experiences would have made me avoid a carburated engine like the plague, I would have thought that those kinds of vehicles would be so uncommon that fuel injection would be stock on all of their cars and trucks.
Power can't be the issue, modern fuel injection systems are just as powerful as carburated engines - especially with the addition of the computer controls. The intake manifolds I would think would be all designed for fuel injection, so again why would they opt for the TBI - essentially a modification from their stock design? The guy who sold me the truck said something about this being an alternate fuel convertible truck - the TBI was meant to make converting the truck to natural gas or propane easier. Was this the reason? Are fuel injected vehicles more or less common on the new Fords?
Power can't be the issue, modern fuel injection systems are just as powerful as carburated engines - especially with the addition of the computer controls. The intake manifolds I would think would be all designed for fuel injection, so again why would they opt for the TBI - essentially a modification from their stock design? The guy who sold me the truck said something about this being an alternate fuel convertible truck - the TBI was meant to make converting the truck to natural gas or propane easier. Was this the reason? Are fuel injected vehicles more or less common on the new Fords?
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I would have to double check my facts, but I think the alternative fuel they had in mind was E85 more so than natural gas with propane coming in last. The VIN #s on alt. fuel vehicles confirms that they are, but not the fuel used. You really should do a web search on E85 to see what it's all about.
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Your 3.0 is multi port fuel injection, each cylinder has its own injector were TBI has a single injector at the throttle body. Pop the hood and you will see six injectors and if you pull the intake hose off the TB you'll find nothing.
Your truck is also flex fuel (E85) but the only thing different is a few components in the fuel system to handle the more corrosive E85.
Your truck is also flex fuel (E85) but the only thing different is a few components in the fuel system to handle the more corrosive E85.
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I don't understand
I would normally go out there and see for myself, but its about 10 o'clock and about 25 degrees outside and sleeting - so I'll look for myself in the morning...
Back to the statement. I don't understand, are you saying that I have a fuel injected engine, and what I thought was a throttle body on a carburator is in fact just a place holder for a conversion if I want to do it?
Is this something that all the Rangers have on them after 1999, kind of like I was reading on most of the E85 sites? If so than I guess I don't feel so special after all, although I do feel a bit better off knowing I can do my part to make <insert political statement here> the Middle East less important than it is today <end political statement>. Hmm, now I'm curious, I'll have to take a long look under the hood tommorrow morning.
Back to the statement. I don't understand, are you saying that I have a fuel injected engine, and what I thought was a throttle body on a carburator is in fact just a place holder for a conversion if I want to do it?
Is this something that all the Rangers have on them after 1999, kind of like I was reading on most of the E85 sites? If so than I guess I don't feel so special after all, although I do feel a bit better off knowing I can do my part to make <insert political statement here> the Middle East less important than it is today <end political statement>. Hmm, now I'm curious, I'll have to take a long look under the hood tommorrow morning.
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I'll believe you. The dealer sticker that they put on the window says it was fuel injected (does anyone else actually keep those things besides me???) - but after looking under that jungle I'll be danged if I can spot the fuel injector lines. I didn't spend forever looking, and there are a hideous amount of hoses and lines around the intake manifold - and was that a cast iron block I saw down there???
Its funny I've never once been to a gas station that sells E85, anyone here use it regularly? Personally I'd love to start using it, the thought of consuming 85% less gas in favor of something a bit more friendly makes me feel better.
Its funny I've never once been to a gas station that sells E85, anyone here use it regularly? Personally I'd love to start using it, the thought of consuming 85% less gas in favor of something a bit more friendly makes me feel better.
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