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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 08:01 AM
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High EOT - after coolant loss event

2006 6.0
118k miles
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I forgot to put the hose clamp back over the barb on the underside of the degas bottle... It popped off this weekend while on a trip, and lost ~3 gallons of coolant. Temps were quite elevated while i limped to town.
Refilled with 3ga of yellow (gold replacement).

My truck has always ran ~5-10° DeltaT, EOT to ECT.
Now, i'm getting 20, 30, even 40 deltaT.
ECT right at 190-195
EOT 215-230
I have 2hrs of driving with the new situation. No white smoke, truck is running great aside from higher DeltaT.

Is there any chance of an air bubble?
Do I need to replace oil cooler/EGR cooler? Perhaps something dislodged or clogged when it was low on coolant?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 08:40 AM
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I would say the oil cooler is clogged, either on the oil or coolant side, if you were running Gold before the event. It's most likely solidified in the oil cooler. With 3 gallons lost, I believe you will have head gaskets and camshaft issues in the future. If you nurse it home (more than 2 hrs), I'd plan on starting to take the engine apart. But that's me.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 08:59 AM
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I'm with TMT. I would not have driven with too little coolant. The resulting consequences can be very expensive.
I recommend everyone to retrofit a low coolant alarm, the 6.0 do not have this, in my eyes important accessory.

 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 09:07 AM
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It was only ~20 minutes of nursing it to town before I got it refilled.
I then drove it home (~ 2hrs) with full coolant. That is where I saw the higher DeltaT. Everything else seems nominal except higher oil temp.

If you all concur, I'll probably tear into oil cooler and replace EGR cooler at same time, hopefully preemptively before head gaskets go.
No white smoke or bubbles in degas bottle right now.

 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 09:16 AM
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I would replace the cooler and hope for the best. But I would install a permanent coolant pressure gauge and monitor the situation.

If you take the time to hunt the postings of 87crewdually on this site, you will find he had a similar situation.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by jKsled
It was only ~20 minutes of nursing it to town before I got it refilled.
I then drove it home (~ 2hrs) with full coolant. That is where I saw the higher DeltaT. Everything else seems nominal except higher oil temp.

If you all concur, I'll probably tear into oil cooler and replace EGR cooler at same time, hopefully preemptively before head gaskets go.
No white smoke or bubbles in degas bottle right now.
IMO 5 minutes is too long and if it happened to me, I'd wait for a tow.
If you are now seeing problems with temperature differentials after this catastrophic event, I am guessing you know there are issues that might not be a band aid fix.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 09:39 AM
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I figured it would need this at some point.
what else to do/check before tearing into it?
  • Pressure test coolant system to check for head gasket leaks
  • coolant flush
  • tear down
  • replace oil cooler and EGR cooler
  • blue fuel spring
  • SCT fitting
  • reinstall everything
  • add coolant filter
  • EC-1 coolant refill, oil change
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 09:44 AM
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I had a similar situation. Deltas were always 5 to 10 degrees, blew a hose and pulled over as soon as it I realized I was loosing coolant. After that temps were over the 15 degree delta. I replaced the cooler and now my temps are back to the 5 to 10 delta.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 10:32 AM
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Is the EGR cooler a necessity to replace or should I inspect it on removal?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 10:34 AM
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If it is an OEM, replace it with an aftermarket unit from BPD and never worry about it again. Do not install another OEM.
 
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Is the EGR cooler a necessity to replace or should I inspect it on removal?
Delete it.
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 10:58 AM
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Do I need aftermarket oil cooler or would stock ford cooler suffice?


And also, why BPD over something like Dorman 904-262 ?
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 11:00 AM
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When you don't want to delete it -> BPD
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by jKsled
Do I need aftermarket oil cooler or would stock ford cooler suffice?


And also, why BPD over something like Dorman 904-262 ?
- NEVER buy Dorman anything over OEM. BPD re-engineered the problematic EGR cooler internals and stopped their failures overall. Do a little self research and you'll find the answers you're looking for.

Good luck
 
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Old Aug 19, 2021 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by joe blow
- NEVER buy Dorman anything over OEM. BPD re-engineered the problematic EGR cooler internals and stopped their failures overall. Do a little self research and you'll find the answers you're looking for.

Good luck
Seems to me that Dorman has the same new design as BPD, XDP, Sinister, etc... which is why I asked

How about the oil cooler?
 
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