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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 05:53 PM
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Running poorly when hot.

Hello, as usual, I have an issue I come here! Happy to have such a place of great knowledge on these trucks.

I have a 1997 F-350, 7.5/E4OD. Engine is completely emissions deleted.

When cold, it's one hell of a runner, but as it warms up.... it struggles to maintain speed and also shifts rather poor. It doesn't get to max heat, about 3/4ths of way. Issues start at around 2/4ths


Any needed extra details let me know, sorry if this is rather vague.
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 06:57 PM
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Originally Posted by foresixtee
When cold, it's one hell of a runner, but as it warms up.... it struggles to maintain speed and also shifts rather poor. It doesn't get to max heat, about 3/4ths of way. Issues start at around 2/4ths


Any needed extra details let me know, sorry if this is rather vague.
I’d start by checking for KOEO fault codes. What doesn’t get to max heat? What is 3/4 of the way to where?

It may not be related to your problem but what was deleted and how? EGR, air injection system
FYI: 2/4 = 1/2
 
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Old Aug 13, 2021 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
I’d start by checking for KOEO fault codes. What doesn’t get to max heat? What is 3/4 of the way to where?

It may not be related to your problem but what was deleted and how? EGR, air injection system
FYI: 2/4 = 1/2
My bad, the guage is what I was mentioning. It's got no Air Injection left and the EGR is disabled.

I've checked KOEO codes already, nothing.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 03:56 AM
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When warmed up the temp needle on my truck is around the “O” in NORMAL.

Are you getting the system pass code 111 or no codes at all?
 
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Originally Posted by My4Fordtrucks
When warmed up the temp needle on my truck is around the “O” in NORMAL.

Are you getting the system pass code 111 or no codes at all?
Pass Code 111
 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 03:08 PM
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I had an intermittent two year problem with hard shifting and false neutrals on my ‘94 Bronco (302/e4od). I replaced the MLPS but that didn’t help. What did solve it was changing the TPS but it took a long time for it to eventually set a code. I’m not saying to arbitrarily start changing parts. Just what mine did when the sensor became bad enough for the computer to not adjust for it anymore. Test the engine temp sensor and others to see if they are not in range before replacing anything.
 
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Old Aug 14, 2021 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by foresixtee
My bad, the guage is what I was mentioning. It's got no Air Injection left and the EGR is disabled.

I've checked KOEO codes already, nothing.
How was air injection deleted? And why is EGR disabled? Air injection delete should still have tab/tads solenoids energized, with a cap to the solenoid for the thermactor valve. EGR delete is not needed on this motor, and will actually make motor not run properly. I have done the air injection delete, but, kept the EGR system intact, and my motor runs great.
 
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Old Aug 15, 2021 | 01:52 AM
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Well everyone. I think I found the source. I'm extremely low on coolant and have a decent leak from behind the bottom of the water pump. Yay!
 
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That won't necessarily cause it to run poorly. It may cause it to overheat, blow a head gasket, etc.
 
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