Moog Parts Are Garbage!
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Moog Parts Are Garbage!
Just wanted to express my frustration with Moog parts & how all never be buying another Moog product again.
Went out to my beater with a heater 01 Camry to rotate my tires & while I looked everything over while I had it apart I noticed my Moog front end stabilizer bar links looked completely shot.
& I'm able to move it way to easy by hand. Granted it may have a couple months left but that's terrible.
I had rebuilt my entire front end 7-8 months ago with all brand new grease able Moog ball joints stabilizer links ect. I baby all my vehicles & don't abuse them at all. The links I replaced were the factory links that had 300k miles on them!!!!!
These have less than 15k on them & were greased every oil change.
I've always read other threads about people bashing on Moog quality & always took it with a grain of salt until now.
I'm about to redo my supers front end & will be avoiding anything with Moog. Hopefully I save someone else the trouble in the future.
Went out to my beater with a heater 01 Camry to rotate my tires & while I looked everything over while I had it apart I noticed my Moog front end stabilizer bar links looked completely shot.
& I'm able to move it way to easy by hand. Granted it may have a couple months left but that's terrible.
I had rebuilt my entire front end 7-8 months ago with all brand new grease able Moog ball joints stabilizer links ect. I baby all my vehicles & don't abuse them at all. The links I replaced were the factory links that had 300k miles on them!!!!!
These have less than 15k on them & were greased every oil change.
I've always read other threads about people bashing on Moog quality & always took it with a grain of salt until now.
I'm about to redo my supers front end & will be avoiding anything with Moog. Hopefully I save someone else the trouble in the future.
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Just wanted to express my frustration with Moog parts & how all never be buying another Moog product again.
Went out to my beater with a heater 01 Camry to rotate my tires & while I looked everything over while I had it apart I noticed my Moog front end stabilizer bar links looked completely shot.
& I'm able to move it way to easy by hand. Granted it may have a couple months left but that's terrible.
I had rebuilt my entire front end 7-8 months ago with all brand new grease able Moog ball joints stabilizer links ect. I baby all my vehicles & don't abuse them at all. The links I replaced were the factory links that had 300k miles on them!!!!!
These have less than 15k on them & were greased every oil change.
I've always read other threads about people bashing on Moog quality & always took it with a grain of salt until now.
I'm about to redo my supers front end & will be avoiding anything with Moog. Hopefully I save someone else the trouble in the future.
Went out to my beater with a heater 01 Camry to rotate my tires & while I looked everything over while I had it apart I noticed my Moog front end stabilizer bar links looked completely shot.
& I'm able to move it way to easy by hand. Granted it may have a couple months left but that's terrible.
I had rebuilt my entire front end 7-8 months ago with all brand new grease able Moog ball joints stabilizer links ect. I baby all my vehicles & don't abuse them at all. The links I replaced were the factory links that had 300k miles on them!!!!!
These have less than 15k on them & were greased every oil change.
I've always read other threads about people bashing on Moog quality & always took it with a grain of salt until now.
I'm about to redo my supers front end & will be avoiding anything with Moog. Hopefully I save someone else the trouble in the future.
That’s why I never replace good parts. There’s a good chance those end links would have lasted for the rest of the life of the car if they were still good when you replaced them.
I just replaced the upper control arms in my Expedition because of cracked balljoint boots. I chose Moog parts because they were priced right at Rockauto. So far so good, but it’s only been a month since replacement.
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From: Odessa, Delaware
I had a Moog front hub bearing go bad after replacing it less than two years ago on my Chevy beater car. I went with a higher price Moog part thinking it was worth the extra cost for a quality part. I should have gone with the cheaper part if I knew it would not last.
Very disappointing!
Very disappointing!
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Sad to hear that.
My youngest son and I rebuilt the front end on his 03 F350 4WD (6" lift and 38" tires) about 6 years ago. No issues since. Maybe the quality issues came up later, or maybe he got lucky.
My youngest son and I rebuilt the front end on his 03 F350 4WD (6" lift and 38" tires) about 6 years ago. No issues since. Maybe the quality issues came up later, or maybe he got lucky.
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PMF suspension makes some heavy duty tie rods and they offer heavy duty ball joints.
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I think Motorcraft is probably the safest choice for top-quality replacement, but Ford doesn't make many of their own parts. I look for suppliers I know as Tier 1 to the auto industry such as Delphi, Bosch, and a few others. Most of them sell identical parts under their own brand, but it's tough to know which ones are OEM for the specific component you're replacing. I always balance the cost of the replacement with the hassle to repeat the job and how much longer I'll be keeping the vehicle. If I settle for true aftermarket, I think Moog is as good of a choice as any.
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Motorcraft that you buy as replacement parts are not the same as OE parts that originally came on the vehicle. Usually lower quality. All automotive manufacturers have different venders for different lines. I was the lead fleet mechanic for a large utility company and found this out years ago. I was shocked and very disappointed. Its a crap shoot when you buy OE parts as to whether they are going to be better or worse then major aftermarket manufacturer parts.
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I think Motorcraft is probably the safest choice for top-quality replacement, but Ford doesn't make many of their own parts. I look for suppliers I know as Tier 1 to the auto industry such as Delphi, Bosch, and a few others. Most of them sell identical parts under their own brand, but it's tough to know which ones are OEM for the specific component you're replacing. I always balance the cost of the replacement with the hassle to repeat the job and how much longer I'll be keeping the vehicle. If I settle for true aftermarket, I think Moog is as good of a choice as any.
Probably still way better than a non -IATF supplier, but not the exact same.
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True, but even ISO/ TS/ IATF 16949 suppliers have different standards for aftermarket versus OEM stuff. I spend a couple years as a quality engineer at one Tier one place , then spent some time as a sort of middle manager at another ( both were names I'm sure everyone's heard of). Both had procedures to reduce scrap on parts that failed QA tests for OE by re-running them/ selling them as aftermarket.
Probably still way better than a non -IATF supplier, but not the exact same.
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Probably still way better than a non -IATF supplier, but not the exact same.
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JMHO and 2 cents
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NAPA is like most auto parts stores, they are re-boxers. Most times I found that you paid extra for the name NAPA to be on the box. Like others, they submit requests for parts to be boxed in a NAPA box. Most times these are the lowest cost bidders.