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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RidgwaySD
Seems like the Icon heim joint track bar is a strong possibility for curing the problem. That is the route I would go in addition to having a shop check for worn tie rod ends and drag link. It is always advisable to have all of the steering parts replaced at the same time when you have an issue like this.
any brand or particular item for the icon heim
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 11:43 AM
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any brand or particular item for the icon heim
https://www.iconvehicledynamics.com/...-trackbar-kit/
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 12:01 PM
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The Icon part (64038) looks to go for $499 from numerous vendors. The adjustable track bars range from $199-$500+, some with one heim joint, some with two, some don't use heims at all, instead using more standard but stronger ball joint and bushing.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 05:17 PM
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I went with an after-market drag link and track bar. I upgraded to stronger ball joints with grease fittings so I can service them.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I went with an after-market drag link and track bar. I upgraded to stronger ball joints with grease fittings so I can service them.
I'm not at the point of changing them out yet, but for future reference what brand of greasable ball joints did you go with?
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I went with an after-market drag link and track bar. I upgraded to stronger ball joints with grease fittings so I can service them.
That's a smart move going to greasable steering and front end suspension parts. 👍
The fact that these heavy duty trucks come with non-greasable front ends is RIDICULOUS!
I understand that's the way of the world anymore.... but still stupid.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
I went with an after-market drag link and track bar. I upgraded to stronger ball joints with grease fittings so I can service them.
do you have the link for that one
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 07:15 PM
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This is the ball joint I pressed into my track bar from BD Diesel. My drag link is from PMF Suspension.

KRYPTONITE TRACK BAR BALL JOINT FORD SUPER DUTY F250/F350 2005-2021 – Kryptonite Products

I did not use the retainer ring as the BD track bar is thicker than the stock bar. It's pressed in so it is not going anywhere.
 
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Old Jul 11, 2021 | 08:25 PM
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My '19 F-250 had a death wobble yesterday. I'm at 35,1XX miles. I'm dropping it off at the dealership this week. Other than describing the death wobble, which I know they are aware of, what specifically do I need to tell or or ask of them?
 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Central FL Mike
My '19 F-250 had a death wobble yesterday. I'm at 35,1XX miles. I'm dropping it off at the dealership this week. Other than describing the death wobble, which I know they are aware of, what specifically do I need to tell or or ask of them?
I would want them to -
Inspect all the front end steering and suspension components for excessive play/slop and document each one listed individually. (i.e.. tie rods, ball joints, track bar, drag link, radius arms, steering gear box, Pitman arm, wheel bearings, steering damper, shocks, sway bar)
Do an alignment and get a copy of the results.
Be persistent they may try to be dismissive, if they won't check it all tell them to document that.
Report back for everyone please
 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 04:29 PM
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I would want them to -
Inspect all the front end steering and suspension components for excessive play/slop and document each one listed individually. (i.e.. tie rods, ball joints, track bar, drag link, radius arms, steering gear box, Pitman arm, wheel bearings, steering damper, shocks, sway bar)
Do an alignment and get a copy of the results.
Be persistent they may try to be dismissive, if they won't check it all tell them to document that.
Report back for everyone please
Thanks, morehouse7!
 
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Old Jul 12, 2021 | 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SARDiverDan
This is the ball joint I pressed into my track bar from BD Diesel. My drag link is from PMF Suspension.

KRYPTONITE TRACK BAR BALL JOINT FORD SUPER DUTY F250/F350 2005-2021 – Kryptonite Products

I did not use the retainer ring as the BD track bar is thicker than the stock bar. It's pressed in so it is not going anywhere.
Let know how that works out.

The last time I did it, I fabbed up on my own and did a double shear

 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by morehouse7
I would want them to -
Inspect all the front end steering and suspension components for excessive play/slop and document each one listed individually. (i.e.. tie rods, ball joints, track bar, drag link, radius arms, steering gear box, Pitman arm, wheel bearings, steering damper, shocks, sway bar)
Do an alignment and get a copy of the results.
Be persistent they may try to be dismissive, if they won't check it all tell them to document that.
Report back for everyone please
I took my truck to the dealership at 8 A.M. and it went pretty much as expected. I explained, in detail, the circumstances under which the death wobble happened (expansion crack at approximately 65 mph resulting in violent side to side oscillation of the front end) to which he said he was familiar.

He asked if I wanted to wait or leave the truck. When I asked how long he thought it might take; he said 35 - 60 minutes. When I slid my typed list of items I wished to be checked with an alignment across the counter, I told him I thought it was more than a 60-minute job. He told me it was most likely due to a steering stabilizer (I think) and low tire pressure and explained how common that combination was. I got into a whole thing with him about inspecting the condition of the front-end steering and suspension components.

I explained I was going to be a thorn in the side over this and he took my list of demands and told someone behind the counter to have “Mike” look at my truck and I left it with them.

I got a call at 4:45 P.M. that my truck was ready. When I arrived, the dealership was like a ghost town. No cars in the pickup/drop off lane. One person in the service department and he was not a service manager. He could not tell me anything about my service or results and I would have to talk to a service manager and none were on duty at the time. This seems deliberate.

I doubt I will get satisfaction from the dealership in the roughly 700 miles I have left on my factory warranty. What and I supposed to do, intentionally try in induce a death wobble? I think I will take it to a 4x4 shop I trust and have it re-inspected and repaired unless there are any more suggestions. If I can attach them, I will include the dealership paperwork and my note.

 
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Old Jul 16, 2021 | 08:12 PM
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They did not do any inspections, other than to the steering stabilizer. If they had inspected additional items it should have been detailed on your paperwork. They can't seriously believe that a steering stabilizer is the cause and the cure to this issue.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2021 | 12:49 PM
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Had DW 2 or 3 times since I bought my 2018 F250. There have been a couple fixes pushed out by Ford. The caster shim fix was the right thing to do but apparently was too expensive for Ford so they went to re-valving the stabilizer shock which only hides the issue. I got replacement stabilizer shock #1, had DW again so then they say "this is the new improved stabilizer shock, improved from the 1st improvement". So I have had 2 replacement stabilizer shocks. Went to my go to 4wheel drive shop and had them install a 2" leveling kit complete w/ an adjustable track bar. No more DW. Guy at the shop actually guaranteed me the leveling kit install (which would require new camber setting) would remedy my issue. Been near 8 months now and no more Death Wobble. Good luck with yours!
 
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