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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 06:15 PM
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Crank, no start...........occasionally.

Hi all. About 2 months ago I purchased a Ford F250 4wd with the 7.3 diesel. All in all, a very stout truck. I believe everything is stock engine wise except for the air cleaner. It runs great generally and usually starts right up, until recently.

In the last week or so, I get a crank, no fire issue. When it happens, the guage likes flash rapidly, and the fuel guage jumps all over the place. If I let it sit for a while, it will start right up. I can tear down and rebuild a gas motor, but have very little diagnostic experience with diesel.

A little background on the truck. It currently has 206,000 miles on it. For the last 6 years the previous owner has kept meticulous maintenance records, with oil, filter changes, fuel filter changes, and air cleaner cleaning. He also has documented all repairs including crank position sensor, front hub replacement, etc.

I'm looking for ideas on suggested things to diagnose rather than throwing parts at it that aren't needed. I really like this truck and powertrain, and hope to keep it around for a long time
 
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Originally Posted by 2001headache
Hi all. About 2 months ago I purchased a Ford F250 4wd with the 7.3 diesel. All in all, a very stout truck. I believe everything is stock engine wise except for the air cleaner. It runs great generally and usually starts right up, until recently.

In the last week or so, I get a crank, no fire issue. When it happens, the guage likes flash rapidly, and the fuel guage jumps all over the place. If I let it sit for a while, it will start right up. I can tear down and rebuild a gas motor, but have very little diagnostic experience with diesel.

A little background on the truck. It currently has 206,000 miles on it. For the last 6 years the previous owner has kept meticulous maintenance records, with oil, filter changes, fuel filter changes, and air cleaner cleaning. He also has documented all repairs including crank position sensor, front hub replacement, etc.

I'm looking for ideas on suggested things to diagnose rather than throwing parts at it that aren't needed. I really like this truck and powertrain, and hope to keep it around for a long time

Flashing gauges, lights and relays usually indicates low battery voltage. What does your batt voltage drop to when cranking?


What year model truck is it. 2002 and later models have a junction block that sits on top of the driver side fender that is know to corrode. This one usually presents itself by causing gauges to go blank while running but would be worth looking at after you've checked batt voltage and all Battery cable positive and negative connections, especially the grounds.
 
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Old Jul 5, 2021 | 08:48 PM
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GO(edit: sorry didn't realized I yelled there, ignore the caps) to the tech section in the sticky section and read up on the Forscan info there. You are going to require a compatible obd2 dongle and pc laptop or android device. All the info is there for what to buy and how to get started. If you are serious about wanting to diagnose you problem instead of playing part darts, then proper diagnostic equipment is a must. Welcome to the 7/3 say good bye to your money and free time. Gotta love these trucks.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AllaboutMPG


What year model truck is it.

Sorry, forgot to say it's a 2001.

Thanks for the replies.
Looks like it's time to open the wallet and get busy!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 12:58 PM
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Well, as it turns out, being the awesome trouble shooter I am, I totally missed the cause of my problem. I tend to look at the hardest, most expensive fix to an issue. I keep forgetting K.I.S.S. By keeping it simple, I would have found my problem very early on. It was a loose battery cable on the negative post of one of the batteries. Yes, I can be a dumb a$$ sometimes.
 
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Hey playas ef up.
 
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When your gauges present like that, it is either the batteries or one or both of the battery connections.

Good job!
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Whitey Ford
When your gauges present like that, it is either the batteries or one or both of the battery connections.

Good job!
Thanks! After work, I checked all battery connections, and they were all sketchy. I tightened all, and life is good! I have a lot to learn, but you guys rock! I really like this truck, and hope to have a good experience with it.
 
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Old Jul 6, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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Flashing gauges, lights and relays usually indicates low battery voltage.
You hit the nail directly on the head. Thank you!
 
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You hit the nail directly on the head. Thank you!
Gotta love a free and easy fix. Good job
 
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Well done!

Post up a pic of your new truck, we love seeing them.

On edit: if the air filter is a K&N most of us would recommend something else like a 6637 or AIS or S&B.
 
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Originally Posted by aawlberninf350
Well done!

Post up a pic of your new truck, we love seeing them.

On edit: if the air filter is a K&N most of us would recommend something else like a 6637 or AIS or S&B.
I'll post a pic or two tomorrow. She's a sexy beast
the air cleaner is a S&B.
 
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Old Jul 8, 2021 | 05:17 PM
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A couple of pics of Bertha. As the saying goes, She ain't much, but she's all I got!"


 
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She looks great! Like the bumpers. And the headache rack. And the painted side steps.
 
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As the saying goes, She ain't much, but she's all I got!"
I think it's a good looking rig. Like the bumpers, fender flares, and other add ons. Drive it, enjoy it.
 
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