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i think for 11-16 you just plug up the return line fitting .
Thanks for the link. That website name sounds familiar. I believe I came across this but didn't look any further because it was for a 17 plus 6.7.
Appreciate all that info you posted but I'm sticking with the 4 micron factory filter because I'll still have my DFCM primary pump because once the Air Dog is installed, it'll feed the DFCM with a 2 micron filter. But I'll run the 10 micron filter on the Air Dog in the winter.
At least you posted it up for the forum.
Originally Posted by speakerfritz
this is what the install is supposed to look like.
my hoses didn’t cooperate with that.
Originally Posted by speakerfritz
this is how I installed it.
I used the S&S net bond and made a foam collar and stuck the filter in the own housing. Hoses lined right up.
didn’t use the L mount.
ALSO, my hose piping off problem could also be because I have the return hose in wrong…it should point down. I’m going to move it when the barb fittings come in.
Were your factory hoses not long enough for the lines to go on the left of the housing like in the pic on the website?
Originally Posted by speakerfritz
this is the CAT 2 micron filter element. I’m told that this will fit the S&S and the S&S 4 micron Baldwin and six will fit on the CAT manifold. S&S does not recommend using a 2 micron. They said Ford designed for 5 micron for a reason and S&S thinks the 4 micron is e Pugh of an improvement. I told them I was not going to use the 2 micron during the winter.
Okay so I emboldened where you refer to "S&S" When I see S&S, I think of S&S Diesel Motorsports.
They made the first DPK kit on market. And they make the 2nd gen version with the Parker Racor SNAPP filter setup. I just did a big order from dieselfiltersonline.com AND FORGOT TO ORDER A FREAKING 10 MICRON AIRDOG FUEL FILTER!!!! Oh well.
The engine compartment factory filter for the HPFP is rated at 4 microns from I've seen. If I'm wrong, I'll get corrected...
Originally Posted by speakerfritz
NOW, to see how I can convert the 1/4 return hose to a 1/2 one.
time for some beers.
Go for it...
What's on the end of the 1/4 inch return hose? Where does it go to?
Originally Posted by helifixer
Here is the clamp.
I will try to find some part numbers.
Originally Posted by helifixer
so I think this is the part number of the clamp I posted pics of, dayco 92216 they have every size available in this style of clamp.
Originally Posted by helifixer
they cost more but I love them anywhere it is a pain to change a hose because a clamp cut it.
Thanks for that info. Are those a fuel line clamp, just a different style?
Last edited by Overkill2; Jul 4, 2021 at 01:30 PM.
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So this replaces the bowl filter, right? Hard to install?
goals are
s&S kit = reduce the cost of engine bay fuel filters, eliminate the small fitting breakage problem, improve the stock 5 micron filter to 4 microns, provide a manifold for extra NPT accesory ports.
CAT kit = reduce the cost of engine bay fuel filters, eliminate the small fitting breakage problem, improve the stock 5 micron filter to 2 microns, provide a manifold for extra NPT accesory ports.
if I were to do all over again, I would go with the S&S kit...and...if you wanted to run 2 microns during warm months, get a CAT filter eliment. but be advised S&S does not recommend using 2 micron filters.
I got an email back from the kit distributor. they indicated 1 other case of the hose poping off and attribute it to possible hose outside diameter variations. the distributor said the other case used a new barb fitting with 1 way teeth and the problem was resolved. sounds like they kept the same funky clamp.
I have one way teeth fittings with longer barbs on order, some 1/4 injection hose clamps, so once they get installed should be fine. couldnt find the high pressure clamps mentioned in earlier post but the 1/4 fuel injection clamps look simular.
if it pops off again once I replace the barb fitting....im going back to stock in the engine bay and moving the 2 micron filter to the underside and put it in front of the AFE lift pump I have coming in.
I got an email back from the kit distributor. they indicated 1 other case of the hose poping off and attribute it to possible hose outside diameter variations. the distributor said the other case used a new barb fitting with 1 way teeth and the problem was resolved. sounds like they kept the same funky clamp.
I have one way teeth fittings with longer barbs on order, some 1/4 injection hose clamps, so once they get installed should be fine. couldnt find the high pressure clamps mentioned in earlier post but the 1/4 fuel injection clamps look simular.
if it pops off again once I replace the barb fitting....im going back to stock in the engine bay and moving the 2 micron filter to the underside and put it in front of the AFE lift pump I have coming in.
and no..they did not offer to pay for any of the upgrade parts I have coming in.
I got an email back from the kit distributor. they indicated 1 other case of the hose poping off and attribute it to possible hose outside diameter variations. the distributor said the other case used a new barb fitting with 1 way teeth and the problem was resolved. sounds like they kept the same funky clamp.
I have one way teeth fittings with longer barbs on order, some 1/4 injection hose clamps, so once they get installed should be fine. couldnt find the high pressure clamps mentioned in earlier post but the 1/4 fuel injection clamps look simular.
if it pops off again once I replace the barb fitting....im going back to stock in the engine bay and moving the 2 micron filter to the underside and put it in front of the AFE lift pump I have coming in.
I think with hose barbs and the fuel injection clamps, you should be good...
Did you get a micron rating for the AFE filters? I thought I heard 1 micron, if they even make them....
Last edited by Overkill2; Jul 5, 2021 at 10:31 AM.
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This H&S kit has the rubber hose and a new steel nozzle that won't break for the 17 plus guys I would assume who have that 3rd fitting like fritz does. 11 to 16 guys wouldn't need it. Just cap the two side ports off.
I gotta say if I went with a filter replacement set, I like the H&S filter head set up and hose better than fritz's.
then there's Smeding Diesel's set up but I can't see a hose for the 17 plus trucks.
What I learned about the oem fuel filter junction is that the return is connected to the cp4 chasis, the injector return, the fuel filter, and goes back to the tank.
the problem I have is the oem return line is a 50 psi rated line.
I don’t know exactly what the pressure is in the line…but…with a stock setup the psi after the filter is mid 50’s. With this 2 micron filter, the psi is mid 60’s..
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