Defeat AEB?
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Defeat AEB?
Despite the insanity of ordering a new truck right now, I am going to do so next week. I am seriously tempted to forgo a few options and get an STX instead of an XLT or maybe the Lariat. I absolutely do not want a truck that will EVER brake for me automatically. By getting the STX I do not have to accept this feature which comes standard on the XLT and Lariat. If I do go for a higher trim level can this feature be defeated? Willing to do it through Forscan if it is possible that way but I was hoping I could turn it off easily. If I stick myself with it, can I turn it off?
I was also hoping to avoid ESOF, the automatic shift on the fly. I asked the salesman but he thinks it is required. No way to get a lever and manual hubs from Ford anymore? The vacuum system is another boondogle I would prefer to avoid.
I was also hoping to avoid ESOF, the automatic shift on the fly. I asked the salesman but he thinks it is required. No way to get a lever and manual hubs from Ford anymore? The vacuum system is another boondogle I would prefer to avoid.
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I plan to keep the truck a long time. My 2012 has 187k miles on it and I plow snow with it in the winter. I know from first hand experience that when the time comes for front end service the ESOF forces you to not only buy additional special tools but additional parts to do the same job compared to a manual hubs truck. I would prefer to avoid that and any t-case shift motor issues. I suppose a conversion would be pretty easy but that sort of negates the "save money at repair time" idea. Stuck with forced "progress' I guess...
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Forscan rocks. I have one for my 2012, probably the same for the new one I would guess. I have shut off all kinds of useless (to me) "features" Good to know AEB is in there and I could permanently disable it. Thanks for the reply!
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It does not stop for you. All the system does is preload the brakes so they respond quicker. It does not apply the brakes for you if you are too close to something.
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Automatic Emergency Braking (AEB) will precharge and increase brake-assist sensitivity to provide full responsiveness when you do brake. If you don’t take corrective action and a collision is imminent, brakes can apply automatically.
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In over 35 years of driving I have never needed a vehicle to brake for me to save my behind or the front of the truck, thank you for your concern. I knew comments like this were inevitable... My wife's last car had a feature like this, we no longer have that car. I find the "feature" more dangerous than helpful. What is it going to do when I am plowing snow? Emergency brake and screw up what I am trying to do? I honestly do not even want to know. All I want to know is if I can turn it off. If you don't know please save your typing trying to convince me it is for my own good, that is a waste of both of our time.
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This is from the owners manual
“The brake support system assists the driver in reducing the collision speed by charging the brakes. If the risk of collision further increases after the warning light illuminates, the brake support prepares the brake system for rapid braking. This may be apparent to the driver. Brake support does not automatically apply the brakes. If you press the brake pedal, the system could apply additional braking up to maximum braking force, even if you lightly press the brake pedal.
“The brake support system assists the driver in reducing the collision speed by charging the brakes. If the risk of collision further increases after the warning light illuminates, the brake support prepares the brake system for rapid braking. This may be apparent to the driver. Brake support does not automatically apply the brakes. If you press the brake pedal, the system could apply additional braking up to maximum braking force, even if you lightly press the brake pedal.
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seems odd
but personal preference is yours
but i can say the system does work and it will SAVE your bacon from ******s that stop short on the freeway or in traffic.
i have it on my edge and it has prevented us from being DEAD .
the cruise function can be twitchy, but the AEB is a life saver
you do know there is a trucking company RIGHT now driving on the highways with complete autonomous trucks, a driver sits and babysits the system, but he or she is hands off until time to exit and enter the yard
and very soon those trucks will be empty of drivers.
the technology is here and it will save us from our bad driving
now only if we can get smart phones not to text from drivers seat
but personal preference is yours
but i can say the system does work and it will SAVE your bacon from ******s that stop short on the freeway or in traffic.
i have it on my edge and it has prevented us from being DEAD .
the cruise function can be twitchy, but the AEB is a life saver
you do know there is a trucking company RIGHT now driving on the highways with complete autonomous trucks, a driver sits and babysits the system, but he or she is hands off until time to exit and enter the yard
and very soon those trucks will be empty of drivers.
the technology is here and it will save us from our bad driving
now only if we can get smart phones not to text from drivers seat
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Funny, I felt the same way about your response to me...
There was no invitation for discussion about the systems merits in my question. If my response offended you I am sorry but I have no idea why people would choose to abdicate driving responsibility to a computer. I will resist this as long as I am able.
There was no invitation for discussion about the systems merits in my question. If my response offended you I am sorry but I have no idea why people would choose to abdicate driving responsibility to a computer. I will resist this as long as I am able.
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seems odd
but personal preference is yours
but i can say the system does work and it will SAVE your bacon from ******s that stop short on the freeway or in traffic.
i have it on my edge and it has prevented us from being DEAD .
the cruise function can be twitchy, but the AEB is a life saver
you do know there is a trucking company RIGHT now driving on the highways with complete autonomous trucks, a driver sits and babysits the system, but he or she is hands off until time to exit and enter the yard
and very soon those trucks will be empty of drivers.
the technology is here and it will save us from our bad driving
now only if we can get smart phones not to text from drivers seat
but personal preference is yours
but i can say the system does work and it will SAVE your bacon from ******s that stop short on the freeway or in traffic.
i have it on my edge and it has prevented us from being DEAD .
the cruise function can be twitchy, but the AEB is a life saver
you do know there is a trucking company RIGHT now driving on the highways with complete autonomous trucks, a driver sits and babysits the system, but he or she is hands off until time to exit and enter the yard
and very soon those trucks will be empty of drivers.
the technology is here and it will save us from our bad driving
now only if we can get smart phones not to text from drivers seat
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From: Ridgway, CO
This is from the owners manual
“The brake support system assists the driver in reducing the collision speed by charging the brakes. If the risk of collision further increases after the warning light illuminates, the brake support prepares the brake system for rapid braking. This may be apparent to the driver. Brake support does not automatically apply the brakes. If you press the brake pedal, the system could apply additional braking up to maximum braking force, even if you lightly press the brake pedal.
“The brake support system assists the driver in reducing the collision speed by charging the brakes. If the risk of collision further increases after the warning light illuminates, the brake support prepares the brake system for rapid braking. This may be apparent to the driver. Brake support does not automatically apply the brakes. If you press the brake pedal, the system could apply additional braking up to maximum braking force, even if you lightly press the brake pedal.
Personally I would prefer it not try to think for me. The safest thing is for it to remain consistent and predictable, I can handle things from there.