Notices
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  

Total brake failure

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 23, 2021 | 08:07 AM
  #16  
bbyrnes1's Avatar
bbyrnes1
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: Statesboro, GA
Inline Tube messaged me back "You will need to cut it shorter and then reflare the fitting back on." That sucks. Anybody got any experience with this kit on a short bed, like making a bend or using one of the different cab size extension so I don't have to modify this?
 
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2021 | 08:09 AM
  #17  
paddler's Avatar
paddler
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 664
Likes: 129
From: Columbia, MD
Easy to adjust. Don't cut the line. Instead, somewhere in the straight section, hand-bend a couple of gentle S-bends to get the length "close enough". Then you can adjust the length between the fittings by pulling or pushing to open up the "S". Looks like you don't have a lot of extra length to take up; you may only need a gentle "V".

The trick is gentle, large radius bends, and bend only a little bit then move down the line a bit to continue the curve. Trying to get a tight bend or bend the radius all at once or all in the same place is likely to kink the line. I think I used about 3" radius on my bends to adjust length.

I have a long-bed crew cab, and that line was too long in my kit. I suspect they leave some extra line in case the customer needs to go around other obstacles. It's easier put in some S-bends to shorten a long line than to stretch a too-short line.
 
Reply
Old Jul 23, 2021 | 07:30 PM
  #18  
bbyrnes1's Avatar
bbyrnes1
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: Statesboro, GA
Well that line being pre bent was a joke. I know lines need tweaking but this wasn't even close. It looks like a turd but it's in the retainers and not touching anything. The shorter extended cab extension fit the bill for connecting it to the line coming off the RABS module.
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2021 | 10:20 AM
  #19  
bbyrnes1's Avatar
bbyrnes1
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: Statesboro, GA
What's everybody's least hated way of bleeding an empty brake system? Bleeding brakes is my least favorite thing to do on a car, so I'm open to suggestions. Pedal pusher helper, vacuum, pressure, gravity...?
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2021 | 11:18 AM
  #20  
Edgethis's Avatar
Edgethis
Lead Driver
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 6,815
Likes: 708
From: Tobyhanma, PA
My least hated way of doing it involves 3 people. One in cab with pedal, one under with the wrench, and one watching fluid level in master cylinder.

I've seen a handful of other methods but haven't had much luck with them. The way above is easy and quick.i
 
Reply
Old Jul 26, 2021 | 08:12 PM
  #21  
paddler's Avatar
paddler
More Turbo
20 Year Member
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 664
Likes: 129
From: Columbia, MD
Carlyle (NAPA) vacuum tool. One person, all you have to watch is keeping the master cylinder reservoir full. Break the bleed screw free, put suction hose on the bleed screw, draw a vacuum, open screw, start pumping. When it's time to refill the master cylinder, close the screw. Then open screw and resume pumping. No open bleed - pump and hold - close bleed - release- repeat stuff. If you have a second person, they watch the master cylinder and refill as necessary while you keep sucking fluid out the bleed screw. Extra clear hose is very useful.

I prefer the Carlyle tool to Mightyvac. Mightyvac pulls fluid into a small cup on the pump, which is annoying to detach from the pump and dump. I usually spilled and/or dripped fluid while dumping. On the plus side, a full cup was a good reminder to go fill the master cylinder before resuming pumping. The Carlyle tool pulls fluid through the pump and out a hose, which is very easy to put in a large bottle. Much less spill and drip, and less annoyance. But... you don't have a reminder to go fill the master cylinder. If you have a second person to watch and refill the master cylinder, use a big bottle like a 2-liter soda bottle for the sucked-through fluid, so you don't have to dump it so often. Since I was bleeding a new dry system, once the initial manufacturing residue came out of the bleed screw, I recycled the clean fluid back into the master cylinder. I probably wouldn't do that on an old, wet system.

My $0.02. Your preferences will differ.
 
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2021 | 07:38 PM
  #22  
bbyrnes1's Avatar
bbyrnes1
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: Statesboro, GA
Is the master cylinder on these trucks plumbed backwards from typical? Usually the port closest to the firewall does the front brakes and the front port does the rears, but mine, which seems to be original, is plumbed as the firewall port doing the rears and the front port does the front brakes.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2021 | 09:15 AM
  #23  
maxthegearhead's Avatar
maxthegearhead
4wd Low
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 13
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by bbyrnes1
What's everybody's least hated way of bleeding an empty brake system? Bleeding brakes is my least favorite thing to do on a car, so I'm open to suggestions. Pedal pusher helper, vacuum, pressure, gravity...?
I usually fill the master cylinder all the way to the top with new fluid, open both rear bleeder valves, and let the fluid run out for a few minutes, checking to make sure it doesn't empty the reservoir, topping up as necessary. Then close the rears and do the same with the fronts. That usually gets most of the air out. The rest can be gotten out with a friend pressing the brake and you opening the valve the traditional way.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

 Brett Foote
story-2

This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

 Brett Foote
story-5

10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-6

Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

 Brett Foote
story-7

10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jul 28, 2021 | 09:25 AM
  #24  
bbyrnes1's Avatar
bbyrnes1
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: Statesboro, GA
Originally Posted by maxthegearhead
I usually fill the master cylinder all the way to the top with new fluid, open both rear bleeder valves, and let the fluid run out for a few minutes, checking to make sure it doesn't empty the reservoir, topping up as necessary. Then close the rears and do the same with the fronts. That usually gets most of the air out. The rest can be gotten out with a friend pressing the brake and you opening the valve the traditional way.
Max,
Welcome to FTE! I'm honored your first post was a response to my post . That sounds like a gravity bleed, which is what I'm planning on doing after I bench bleed my new master cylinder using my nifty new syringe I got to reverse bleed it rather than the typical pump fluid back into the reservoir method.
 
Reply
Old Jul 28, 2021 | 09:28 AM
  #25  
maxthegearhead's Avatar
maxthegearhead
4wd Low
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 13
Likes: 4
Originally Posted by bbyrnes1
Max,
Welcome to FTE! I'm honored your first post was a response to my post . That sounds like a gravity bleed, which is what I'm planning on doing after I bench bleed my new master cylinder using my nifty new syringe I got to reverse bleed it rather than the typical pump fluid back into the reservoir method.
Thanks, I've been lurking for a couple months and the gravity bleed is my go to. I've had my 97 7.3 for a few months now and I'm loving it, unfortunately I have had to do a lot of work to the brakes too.
 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2021 | 07:32 AM
  #26  
bbyrnes1's Avatar
bbyrnes1
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: Statesboro, GA
Well, I bled and bled and bled until I couldn't bleed anymore. I still had a spongy pedal but it's driveable. I was running around and out of nowhere the brake pedal got rock hard and then it felt perfect! Got home, shut it down, and saw smoke billowing from the front left. Turns out the caliper had not fully released. After taking it off this is what I found.

 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2021 | 10:32 AM
  #27  
z31freakify's Avatar
z31freakify
Hotshot
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Dec 2012
Posts: 11,278
Likes: 1,658
From: Las Cruces New Mexico
Originally Posted by bbyrnes1
Well, I bled and bled and bled until I couldn't bleed anymore. I still had a spongy pedal but it's driveable. I was running around and out of nowhere the brake pedal got rock hard and then it felt perfect! Got home, shut it down, and saw smoke billowing from the front left. Turns out the caliper had not fully released. After taking it off this is what I found.
Dam, time for total rebuild of the braking system.
 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2021 | 05:42 PM
  #28  
oldbird1965's Avatar
oldbird1965
Fleet Owner
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 20,419
Likes: 197
From: AZ
Club FTE Silver Member

Totally new calipers TOO!
 
Reply
Old Aug 20, 2021 | 07:32 PM
  #29  
bbyrnes1's Avatar
bbyrnes1
Thread Starter
|
Senior User
Joined: Sep 2012
Posts: 182
Likes: 1
From: Statesboro, GA
The calipers were the only thing I didn't replace at first. So yep, 100% new brake system. Before the brake line blew the brakes we're jam up, so I figured I could keep the calipers. Anything worth doing is worth doing right, and overdoing.
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
NJBone
1967 - 1972 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
12
Nov 10, 2021 12:41 PM
mountain dewd
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
18
Dec 4, 2015 10:22 PM
jeep_guy48
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
38
Mar 27, 2015 06:15 AM
jmgrif
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks
4
Aug 7, 2012 07:21 AM
2danglong
1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
1
Nov 10, 2009 11:30 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:31 PM.

story-0
10 Ways Ford is LOSING to the Competition

Slideshow: 10 ways Ford is losing to the competition

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-15 09:52:01


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 6 Best Deals Available on New Fords & Lincolns Right Now

Some great targets in today's expensive world.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-15 09:35:19


VIEW MORE
story-2
This Hennessey Takes the Expedition Tremor's Off-Roading Capability to the Next Level

Slideshow: The VelociRaptor Expedition gains a lift, upgraded suspension, Brembo brakes, and trail-ready equipment while retaining the stock 440-horsepower EcoBoost V6.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-12 11:01:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Fords at 2026 Carlisle Ford Nationals

Slideshow: Top 10 Fords at 2026 Ford Nationals

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-09 11:10:08


VIEW MORE
story-4
3 Best / 3 Worst Parts of Modern Ford Ownership

Based on years of owning multiple modern Ford products.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-09 10:53:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Amazing Upgrades That Solve Common Ford Truck Owner Headaches

SPONSORED: From muddy boots to rain-soaked cargo, these upgrades address some of the most common frustrations Ford truck owners face every day.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-06-08 18:50:34


VIEW MORE
story-6
Every 2026 Ford Engine Explained

Here's everything you need to know about every Ford engine available for the 2026 model year.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-05 12:58:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Ugly Ford Trucks That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Ford trucks that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 09:51:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Things Every Truck Owner NEEDS (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: the best gifts for dads & grads

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
Rezvani's Latest Post-Apocalyptic Monster Is a Ford F-150 Raptor Underneath

Slideshow: Called the Fortress, the 850-horsepower pickup combines Raptor underpinnings with military-inspired features, survival equipment, and a starting price of $285,000.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-06-03 11:38:36


VIEW MORE