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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 12:47 PM
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brake very soft

been noticing that i am getting a lot more travel in my brake pedal and then there were next to no brakes. the old girl isn't leaking any fluid and is topped off. i went ahead and bled then with no improvement. what should i be looking at next?
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 02:04 PM
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check rear brake adjustment. if they are way out, you will get a very low pedal.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 02:42 PM
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The one side was tight. I couldn't get the drum off. The other side was a little loose. Will go and double check though.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 03:23 PM
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The rear brakes are good and the parking brake is strong. When press the brake peddle it goes down half or a little over half way before anything happens and if I let off and press again the peddle gets hard and you then have to stand on the peddle to stop.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 04:31 PM
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Check your vaccuum at the booster. Should be around 19in iirc.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 06:57 PM
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I pulled the line off the booster with it running and there is a vacuum to it but I don't have a gauge to tell how much. I will get one tomorrow.
 
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Old Mar 21, 2015 | 09:27 PM
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Gravity bleed the brakes and consider a zero loss brake booster. What year is your truck?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 07:28 AM
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What do you mean when you say gravity bleed? The truck is a 97. Is the zero loss booster a ford only part or something I can get through Napa?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 08:16 AM
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Subscribed. never heard of a zero loss booster
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 09:33 AM
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In 97 they started putting on the zero loss brake boosters so you should be fine unless its bad. Gravity bleeding is just opening up the bleed valve and letting the fluid flow out by itself without someone pumping the brakes or using a mityvac to suck it out. Use a hammer and tap on the brake caliper, it helps get the air out. Let it sit for a while and repeat. I've had good luck with it.


Brad, I really don't know the difference in the boosters but first read about it on here years ago from RubberDuck (Cody). Maybe a search will bring it up, just a better brake booster.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 10:36 AM
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So what is a "zero Loss" booster? Since they are all the same part # from 94-97
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 11:15 AM
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I think I am going to replace the booster. It is the only thing that is left. The master isn't leaking and neither is the wheel cylinder or break lines. I have bleed the lines the old school way with no improvement and there is a vacuum on the booster. Did they put the zero loss on just the 97 or is it on the earlier models as well? Also is the zero loss a dealer only part or something I can get through Napa?
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 11:59 AM
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before replacing the booster, try removing the rear line off the master and capping it, then step on the brakes and see if the pedal is firm, or still soft.
this will eliminate the probability of the problem being in the rear circuit, specifically the RABS valve where i think your problem may be.
 
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Old Mar 22, 2015 | 01:49 PM
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This is what I got with the vacuum test.
 
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That looks about right.
 
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