Ford Survey on Lightning Received
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Currently there is no MSRP restrictions if the new bill passed it would limit vehicle value to 80K MSRP to be credit eligible.
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You definitely could, I am also looking at that aspect. The 18k would pay for 6pk worth of driving at 15mpg average and the 4.50 a gallon price. The resale has also always been stable on the SD. That has yet to be established on the F150.
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Interesting. I cant touch an ICE F-150 for the cost of a similarly equipped Lightning with tax rebates. Since the electric could net me about $350 a month savings in fuel, I could pay the truck off in half the loan time. That gets me a leg up on the next truck saving payments for three to four years as down money on the next truck after the Lightning. I know it makes no sense to average drivers, but for me, I’ll likely always have a truck payment until I retire. Having 200-250k on a truck in five years, they aren’t worth squat anyway. The only other option is a Maverick at 35-40mpg as a daily driver, and running it until it just can’t go anymore. But, what’s fun in that pregnant roller skate? I’ve gotta run all sorts of numbers and options before I’ll commit either way.
#21
The most expensive F150 Platinum PowerBoost is like $73k, with X-Plan being closing to $67k. The Platinum Lightning with tax incentives is $82k.
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I should have been clear. Lariat or XLT. The Lariat Lightning with rebate is in the low $52k range. An ICE version is well into the upper $60k easily. Frankly, I think Ford sees the Platty Lightnings flying off the shelves, and loaded the cost somehow to offset the entry level trucks. It’s not realistic that the Platinum which his basically a Lariat on all accounts, except for a few optional differences, NOT mechanical, should be $25k more.
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I only know what I'm reading so far, but an F150 Lightning Lariat is $59,974 after the $7,500 federal tax credit. And from what I understand, that includes the standard battery and range of about 230 miles. Add the long range battery option at $7k, and it's now $66,974. A Lariat Premium costs $71,974 (at least that includes the long range battery...I think). You can certainly get an ICE Lariat for much less than those numbers. Probably about $10k less. And to make the Lightning price premium worse, an ICE F150 will be discounted. I seriously doubt the Lightning will be, even with X Plan. You're basically paying for the truck and about 3 or 4 years of fuel expense all at once. And that does not include the price of home charger installation. I still think it's fantastic, but it's not the deal it sounded like at launch.
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Speaking of expense savings on the EV compared to the ICE truck, all everyone is considering is the fuel, you also have to account for lack of oil changes, reduction in brake lining changes due to regenerative braking, lack of coolant changes (until 150,000 for the battery coolant), no differentials to change fluid in etc, etc,.... there's more to it than just fuel savings. A lot more when you add up the labor cost involved if you're a non DIY.
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Speaking of expense savings on the EV compared to the ICE truck, all everyone is considering is the fuel, you also have to account for lack of oil changes, reduction in brake lining changes due to regenerative braking, lack of coolant changes (until 150,000 for the battery coolant), no differentials to change fluid in etc, etc,.... there's more to it than just fuel savings. A lot more when you add up the labor cost involved if you're a non DIY.
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Most EVs use transmission fluid to lubricate the motor/gearbox assembly. I’m sure that’s what they’re talking about; the MachE uses the same configuration every other EV I’m familiar with uses.
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