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Old May 25, 2021 | 02:42 PM
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Ford ESP worth it?

Sadly my 7.3 is up for sale. I recently picked up a 2016 F350 with 73k miles. I called the local dealer to ask about the ESP and was quoted 3,500 for a 60mo/60k mi extension. Is it worth the peace of mind? Do they typically cover the issues that the 6.7 has?
I don't plan to do any mods immediately. Truck is all stock now.

I'm capable of turning a wrench and would have fixed anything on my 7.3. But, that was after many months of research and learning in the 99-03 forum. I'm still new on the 6.7 so I don't know which issues are too big to handle.

My search on the topic shows mostly old threads.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 03:57 PM
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Well it's a 2016, so the longest for offers is a 8 year ESP. This is from the original in service date so really you are only getting a max of three years.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 05:07 PM
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I don't think you can buy a FORD ESP past 36,000 miles. So you are probably being offered a 3rd party ESP. Check on that, I may be wrong.
I don't buy ESPs, But then I rarely keep trucks past the 100,000 mile mark. The engine itself is covered to 100,000 miles 5 years under Ford. So a 2016 is already hitting that 5 year mark.

My experience, ( 2000, 2004, 2006, 2011, 2015, 2017 and now 2020) is that I would not have hardly used an ESP. So I'm money ahead to save the cost of the ESP and self insure and cover any repairs.
But then my 2011 is the only truck I've 150,000 miles on So your experience may vary
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 06:56 PM
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Ford ESP doesn't cover many of the more problematic expensive emissions hardware so that's a big item to note. Do your research on what is and isn't covered. I paid $1,800 for 5 yr 100,000 miles Premium Care years ago, first extended warranty I had ever spent money on. It paid off for me as I had a number of issues over the years, some ESP, some covered by the normal engine warranty. In fact, it paid for itself with just two mirror replacements covered by ESP. If my next truck is a 7.3L gas, I won't get ESP. If my next truck is a diesel... I don't know, I'll figure that out then. I get XLT trim so not as many fancy electronics need ESP coverage in my case. My daily is a Fusion and I'm not getting ESP for it, otherwise I need to decide that by next week! $3,500 for 3 years isn't worth it in my opinion, for a potential issue. It wouldn't cover a $4,000 DPF anyways.
 
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Old May 30, 2021 | 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Painted Horse
I don't think you can buy a FORD ESP past 36,000 miles. So you are probably being offered a 3rd party ESP. Check on that, I may be wrong.
I don't buy ESPs, But then I rarely keep trucks past the 100,000 mile mark. The engine itself is covered to 100,000 miles 5 years under Ford. So a 2016 is already hitting that 5 year mark.

My experience, ( 2000, 2004, 2006, 2011, 2015, 2017 and now 2020) is that I would not have hardly used an ESP. So I'm money ahead to save the cost of the ESP and self insure and cover any repairs.
But then my 2011 is the only truck I've 150,000 miles on So your experience may vary
You can, but it has to happen one of two ways. I bought my '15 Platinum Powerstroke 2 years ago and it had 72k miles on it. It was a CPO though, so it came with a 1 year Ford warranty. Due to the fact that it was under Ford warranty, I was able to add an extended Ford ESP Premium Care warranty to it. I bought mine through Ziegler for either $1600 or $1700 and it covers me through 140k miles or mid next year. It recently paid for itself after fixing an oil leak from my vacuum pump, and replacing the rear camera and entire harness. To me, it was just the added piece of mind. The other way is to take it to a Ford Dealer and pay to have them do a complete inspection on it to see if it is eligible for a warranty. You also have to meet the requirements of still being in the time frame/mileage to add a warranty to it.

As mentioned above, there are a few items that aren't covered by the Ford ESP warranty. The DPF is one of the things, and I wrestled with that one right off the bat. The day after I bought my truck, it threw a check engine light. Turns out, the ceramic was cracked inside the DPF, and the only fix was a complete replacement of the DPF to a tune of $5000. I laughed and told the dealership to shove it and then fought them hard on it. They kept going to the Ford ESP warranty that states that the DPF/catalytic converter is not covered. My only point to them that I kept reiterating, was that they could not legally sell a CPO vehicle with a pre-existing condition. The proof that it was pre-existing was in the tailpipe. It was solid black, so it had apparently been an issue for a minute. The check engine light would only pop up when it was time for a regen though, so it had obviously been reset. Whether or not it was before or after they took possession of the truck remains to be seen. It took a month and a half of fighting, but they finally replaced the entire DPF on their dime. Just FYI...the surveys that they send you after service work seems to be the strongest source to get them in line.
 
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Old May 30, 2021 | 05:22 AM
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To the original post, do some shopping around and that price could be beat. Ziegler and Flood Ford are usually the cheapest. I added my ESP for either $1600 or $1700 and it recently paid for itself. As mentioned above, I think the max you will be able to take yours out will be to 140k miles, or some time in 2023. The month depends on your build date.
 
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Old May 30, 2021 | 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jsukey
To the original post, do some shopping around and that price could be beat. Ziegler and Flood Ford are usually the cheapest. I added my ESP for either $1600 or $1700 and it recently paid for itself. As mentioned above, I think the max you will be able to take yours out will be to 140k miles, or some time in 2020. The month depends on your build date.
Me thinks the time is already past then.
 
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Old May 30, 2021 | 07:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Desert Don
Me thinks the time is already past then.
Not if it's a '16. I bought the maximum that I could for my '15 and it's covered until 140k miles, or mid year '22. He should be able to acquire it up to some point in '23, depending on what month his truck was manufactured. If his truck is not currently under a CPO warranty, then he will have to pay a Ford dealer to do a full inspection in order to obtain a Ford ESP warranty.

I just realized that I wrote 2020 in my previous post. It was supposed to be 2023. I will edit.
 
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Old May 30, 2021 | 09:36 AM
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Not if it's a '16. I bought the maximum that I could for my '15 and it's covered until 140k miles, or mid year '22. He should be able to acquire it up to some point in '23, depending on what month his truck was manufactured. If his truck is not currently under a CPO warranty, then he will have to pay a Ford dealer to do a full inspection in order to obtain a Ford ESP warranty.

I just realized that I wrote 2020 in my previous post. It was supposed to be 2023. I will edit.
I figured it was just a typo, but had to give you a little crap over it! Have a great weekend.

As far as an extended warranty........no, they are not worth the money they cost. But if one is a person that is going to fret and stay awake nights worrying about what “might” fail and what the repairs “might” cost; then for said individuals peace of mind, go for it.
I have found that “most” vehicles will go well beyond what the warranty coverage goes to anyway, so to me, ESP is just money wasted that can be put toward any repairs when / if they arise. And I also realize that many people probably are not in a position to do that, so factoring in an ESP to the financing does not hurt so much.
 
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Old May 30, 2021 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Desert Don
I figured it was just a typo, but had to give you a little crap over it! Have a great weekend.

As far as an extended warranty........no, they are not worth the money they cost. But if one is a person that is going to fret and stay awake nights worrying about what “might” fail and what the repairs “might” cost; then for said individuals peace of mind, go for it.
I have found that “most” vehicles will go well beyond what the warranty coverage goes to anyway, so to me, ESP is just money wasted that can be put toward any repairs when / if they arise. And I also realize that many people probably are not in a position to do that, so factoring in an ESP to the financing does not hurt so much.
Lol, all in good fun! You have a great weekend as well!

Whenever I bought my truck, I inquired about the extended warranty. They wanted $3300 to add on the exact same warranty that I bought from Ziegler for $1770. (I went back and looked it up) If this were an older truck, I wouldn't worry as much since there was much less that could go wrong back then. But with the technology that is in the newer trucks with it's 10-15 different CANBUS systems, and the fact that I drive mine down oilfield roads...it was a no brainer. To each their own of course. I do sleep better at night knowing that 98% of the potential issues that I may run across will be covered by the warranty. As I previously mentioned, the most recent repair that I put it in the shop for paid for the entire cost of the ESP warranty price. It doesn't take very much this day and time for a simple repair to exceed $2000 on our trucks considering the complexity of working on our trucks and the price of labor. Others may be lucky enough to never have to use it. My good friend has over 300k miles on his '12 King Ranch. The only issue he ever had with it was a broken fan blade due to a napping racoon. The whole cab had to be pulled to replace the fan, but he was still within factory warranty and they covered it. He deleted it a couple of years back, but runs a modest tune. I don't plan on having my truck that long, but I pray that I have that kind of luck with any and every vehicle I own or will own!
 
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