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Old May 18, 2021 | 12:12 PM
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Hard codes but no check engine light

I recently purchased an '08 F250 5.4L. This cars has codes P0420, P0430, P0022, P0012, P0305, P0306, P0307 but CEL was never on. Does anyone know if this is how ford make on this truck or previous owner made some mods to turn off CEL
Also, my truck consume so much gas. It's about 10.4 mpg on high way without towing anything. Is this about normal for this truck? I heard there are some programmable chips that can be installed in the truck. Where can this be found?
 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 12:34 PM
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Check the MIL status. It will tell you if the MIL lamp is supposed to be on. Those codes would definitely set a MIL and my guess is the MIL was defeated to hid these codes. That engine needs a full timing job.
 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 12:45 PM
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How do I check the MIL status?
I suspected one for two VCT solenoids malfunction based on the symptom of the truck. I fixed some of the misfire issue due to loosen coil connectors. Now it runs normally at start or high speed but sometimes idles rough when coming to stop.
 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 01:53 PM
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If it's an OBD1 calibration truck, many fault codes are non-MIL. Check emissions label underside of hood.

 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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Label under hood says, " OBD : F II"
 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 06:50 PM
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Don't waste your money on "programmable chips" and your fuel mileage on what I'm assuming is a high mileage Super Duty isn't abnormal. Fix your drivability issues (misfires) and you might pick up 0.5 mpg.

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Old May 18, 2021 | 06:59 PM
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Label under hood says, " OBD : F II"
Yeah, that's inconclusive. How about posting an photo of the whole label.
 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 07:34 PM
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Yeah, that's inconclusive. How about posting an photo of the whole label.
here is the picture of the label

 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 08:14 PM
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Okay, that's an OBD1, not an OBDII vehicle, as noted by the text that states it's not for sale in California.
 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 08:18 PM
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How can you tell OBD1 or OBD2. OBD1 does not trigger MIL on many codes?
 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 08:23 PM
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This is 2008 so should it have OBD2?
 
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OBD1 does not trigger MIL on many codes?
I believe I already stated so.

This is 2008 so should it have OBD2?
No, unless it was intended for market in either California or one of the other "green states".

 
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Old May 18, 2021 | 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
I believe I already stated so.

No, unless it was intended for market in either California or one of the other "green states".
I am confused about the regulation. According to be article, it is required to be OBD2 compliant unless F-250 is not classified as light truck
OBDII - On-Board Diagnostic's System - Does My Car Have OBD-II? The Connector and Communications.
 
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I am confused about the regulation. According to be article, it is required to be OBD2 compliant unless F-250 is not classified as light truck
OBDII - On-Board Diagnostic's System - Does My Car Have OBD-II? The Connector and Communications.
It's classified as over 8500 GVW and is exempt from the Federal requirement (but not California).

Download and refer to the appropriate OBDII manual for free from www.motorcraftservice.com for details.

 
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