Ok so first off I know this is a Ford forum so please don’t try and be very biased here but I have a 2000 5.9 cummins 5speed with 241k miles and a lot done to it very clean. I had someone offer me a trade for a 6.0 power stroke that just had a stage 2 rebuild on it and a bully built trans both of these costed the guy $18k according to him. It’s a clean truck just like mine it has 169k miles and a lariat wonder if this would be an even trade or should I keep my truck.

 

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Run, do not walk, run from any 6.0. Run past the 6.4 also and run to the 6.7 in good condition. You'll spend more money but you will spend even more money fixing the problems with a 6.0. The guy just sank $18k into it and wants to get rid of it? What does that tell you?

Or keep your truck.

Folks here will tell you the 6.0 can be fixed. True, but you would be buying a "fix" that you know nothing about.

 

Run away from ANY 6.0L is not the best advice IMO, That said, you need to get to know the weaknesses of a 6.0L before buying one ...... and so few people take that advice. In fact, most owners do not get educated on the 6.0L and because of it, many small issues do not get properly addressed, so later they become big issues, potentially REALLY big issues.

The advice above on this particular truck is likely to be "spot on", again IMO. Maybe he actually did just spend that much, but it raises red flags for sure.
1. Depending on the value of your truck (which is potentially in the same ballpark of $18k), then I think that the price is probably high - and you didn't post what year. Also, it may have been equipped with an hour meter which would be quite helpful information.
2. "Bully Built" transmission? I assume this is for a rebuild by Bully Dog? Not many reviews on that from what I can find. Early on, Bully Dog tuners were tagged as having a high likelihood of trashing transmissions.
3. As 85e150 stated, at a minimum, you probably would be buying a fix-it project you didn't know anything about.

I have been tuned quite awhile and the transmission is still fine at 230k miles. Either the tune he used caused an issue with the transmission and/or the engine itself, or he didn't operate it as he should (ran hot, over-boosted, etc).

All that said - the used truck prices vary so much across the country. In the end, only you can value what you have and what is out there in the 6.0L market.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/9...used-6-0l.html

If you truly are interested contact the place that did the Bullet Proof Diesel stage 2 upgrades done, and talk to them about the truck. Same with Bully Dog (if that is who did the transmission). Again - if you truly are interested in that specific truck, you should still have some good warranty left on it.

As commonly said - that advice and $1 will get you a cup of coffee

 

I would walk away from that. Not that a 6.0 is going to always grenade; because I didn't know the quality of the work. If that was a 169k stock truck that never had work, which would indicate good care and not modified by the owner, I'd make the trade.

 

... and to add to the above, the transmission would not have had to be rebuilt (almost guaranteed) if that were the case (ie no modifications)

The two big (expensive) potential issues that seem concerning to me are the transmission, and possibly the injectors. I assumed that BPD (or an approved BPD shop) did the "Stage 2 rebuild" due to the terminology used but could EASILY be mistaken on that!! I had assumed that it was probably good work, but you certainly never know for sure.

 

sorry I meant to say fully built transmission the guy bought the truck all stock with 106k miles and fully rebuilt the engine and transmission and now the truck has 169k miles just wondering as I’m new to the 6.0 if it being a built engine how much would I have to worry about it

this is what he said

 

Let me put it a different way. The guy bought the truck, invested $18k; it runs like a dream, but he wants to trade it for an older truck with 80k more miles. There is way more to this story.

 

+ 1 on last post.

 

that’s what I kind of figured why he’d want to trade his truck with way less miles and just put in 18k into the one he has now

 

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Nailed it!

 

well found out he bought it at 106k and rebuilt the engine right after buying it and has driven it 60k miles no problem. Wonder why he rebuilt it after buying it he won’t tell me but I guess from reading what y’all are saying is to stay away from it

 

Personally, I don't understand the logic of trading for an older, higher mileage vehicle if everything is running great. Unless your part of the deal is cash plus your truck.

 

trade is straight across. I asked him why he wanted a high mile older truck and all he said was he wanted something different. I guess my question is how reliable is a built/rebuilt 6.0 with a stage 2 rebuild

 

You ever get burned buying a vehicle? People here are pointing out all the red flags on this deal.

 

You sound like you want to do the deal. No one here is going to help you much because we've learned that all the terms people throw around, like "Stage 2," really don't mean much, at least nothing good. Worse, it means someone has been messing with it, with the chances greater they messed it up than that they made it better. But, no one here knows; we're just hearing what you say. If you're really serious about this, then you need to just go through the 6.0 Buyer's Checklist you can find in the Tech Folder of this forum. Check the truck out thoroughly. Maybe it is a great truck. Maybe the guy really just gets tired of trucks.

Make no mistake, the 6.0 can be a great engine. It's not terrible to just keep it stock. Mine ran great up to 303k miles when thieves blew the oil cooler, short block is still solid. I'm with Jack, I'd love that Ford if it was untouched with 169k, not so much knowing someone has torn it apart.