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You need one of these. They come on the heavy duty three speed in Canada. They are kind of hard to find up here. All the 4 speed crash boxes in Canada are similar to yours. ,Doug.
Where did you happen to find the T98? I assume you are in Canada. They only came on the 6 cylinder flat heads and Ford never sold those in Canada. ,Doug.
Where did you happen to find the T98? I assume you are in Canada. They only came on the 6 cylinder flat heads and Ford never sold those in Canada. ,Doug.
You are right Doug ... I found one in the US, but yes it seems they are rare.
The T98 pictured at the start of the thread is the later style starting in 1953. The 50-52 Ford T98 transmissions did not have the outer ears.
You need a transmission case that looks like this (picture taken from another thread on this forum):
And, Mark has reported the T98 hogs head can be made from a T9 unit by boring out the hole for the front bearing retainer (machine shop job).
The T98 pictured at the start of the thread is the later style starting in 1953. The 50-52 Ford T98 transmissions did not have the outer ears.
You need a transmission case that looks like this (picture taken from another thread on this forum):
And, Mark has reported the T98 hogs head can be made from a T9 unit by boring out the hole for the front bearing retainer (machine shop job).
Thanks so much Fred ... well spotted! I would not have picked that up! I have located one now which I think is correct, see photo.
really appreciate your help!
Neale
Another important thing about the T98 for 48-52 is you need the rear frame mount. The rear mount from the crash box won’t work on the T 98. Doug.
Hi Doug, yes I have read that the rear of the transmission will sit slightly higher ... do I need a replacement cross member or is there an alteration I can make?
[QUOTE=Kempie;19866853]Hi Folks ... looking for some help. Thanks to previous advice from the smart guys on here I have managed to locate a T98 synchro silent 4 speed tranny for my 49 F68, but unfortunately I do not have the bell housing. Given that the tranny I removed from my truck is a T9 which has the clutch housing as part of the tranny case, does the bell housing I require bolt from the tranny to the block? Or do I need a hogshead which attached to the flywheel housing that I already have? Below are photos of the flywheel housing I have plus the two trannies. Thanks for any help.
This is my existing flywheel housing
This is the T98 I want to install
Neale, This T98 that you have will not work in your truck. This T98 is from a '53 or later truck. The front of the case on the T98 that you need does not have the ears to bolt it to the bellhousing. This transmission also does not have a mounting foot for the rear motor mount. here are some of photos of a T98 like you need.
Notice that there are no ears to mount to the bellhousing, as the mounting studs are inside the halfbell. The last photo is a T98 halfbell. Also note the rear motor mount foot. and that it is turned forward instead of rearward like the one on your T9. The T98 is approximately 2" longer than the T9, so your driveshaft will need to be shortened. Otherwise the proper T98 is a direct bolt in replacement for the T9. If the T98 that you have came from a '53, IIRC all the internal parts are the same as the '48-'52 T98s. In '54-'55 the input shaft was lengthened and '56 and later T98s had the helix direction of the gears changed so that none of the parts will work for the earlier transmissions.
I hope this helps, Mark Poley
Hi Folks ... looking for some help. Thanks to previous advice from the smart guys on here I have managed to locate a T98 synchro silent 4 speed tranny for my 49 F68, but unfortunately I do not have the bell housing. Given that the tranny I removed from my truck is a T9 which has the clutch housing as part of the tranny case, does the bell housing I require bolt from the tranny to the block? Or do I need a hogshead which attached to the flywheel housing that I already have? Below are photos of the flywheel housing I have plus the two trannies. Thanks for any help.
This is my existing flywheel housing
This is the T98 I want to install
Neale, This T98 that you have will not work in your truck. This T98 is from a '53 or later truck. The front of the case on the T98 that you need does not have the ears to bolt it to the bellhousing. This transmission also does not have a mounting foot for the rear motor mount. here are some of photos of a T98 like you need.
Notice that there are no ears to mount to the bellhousing, as the mounting studs are inside the halfbell. The last photo is a T98 halfbell. Also note the rear motor mount foot. and that it is turned forward instead of rearward like the one on your T9. The T98 is approximately 2" longer than the T9, so your driveshaft will need to be shortened. Otherwise the proper T98 is a direct bolt in replacement for the T9. If the T98 that you have came from a '53, IIRC all the internal parts are the same as the '48-'52 T98s. In '54-'55 the input shaft was lengthened and '56 and later T98s had the helix direction of the gears changed so that none of the parts will work for the earlier transmissions.
I hope this helps, Mark Poley
Wow Mark ... that’s a wealth of information right there, thank you so much! Fortunately I did not purchase the later model T98, but could quite easily have done so without great advice from guys like you. I have since just committed to buying another T98 which I think is correct for my truck, see photo. Can you tell me if I have o change the rear mount cross member? Thanks mate. Neale
You shouldn't have to change the crossmember. I know Tom in Maine said he had to modify the crossmember in his F3 because the transmission was too high in the rear. I don't understand that, as the T98 mount height from the centerline of the tail shaft to the bottom of the foot is 5/16" shorter than a T9, and I installed the T98, I posted photos of, in a '51 F2 about 40 years ago with no modifications other than shortening the driveshaft. You can use the parking brake lever and bracket from your T9, if it has one, on the T98, but you will need a longer eye bolt that goes from the handle to the brake band because of the extra length of the transmission. Save the T98 PTO, if you don't need it, they are hard to come by and are good trading material.
Mark
I swapped a T98 into my 52 F3 and my T98 sits higher for some reason I haven't found or corrected yet. Been running it as is all this time. The trans cover would not go on because it hit. I cut the opening bigger. I also had to shim the clutch shaft bearing. Something is different??
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