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Old May 3, 2021 | 11:16 AM
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Wondering if anyone has installed a ford 300 six industrial motor in there pickup truck, i have a lot of blow by and low oil pressure in my daily driver. i have 3 industrial motors, i have a 78 f100 stepside with a stick shift, twin 32 webers,headers, and dual exhaust,its a great little truck
 
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There is no difference other than some industrials having a steel crank, and maybe an HD exhaust manifold.
 
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Old May 3, 2021 | 12:07 PM
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Isn't there something about water pumps or timing covers? I read somewhere if you use an automotive whatsit on an industrial engine you can break the block by running a bolt in the wrong place.
 
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Old May 3, 2021 | 12:17 PM
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Not to my recollection. Some of the front drive stuff may have been a little different as they usually had governors and a high mount fan. FordSix would be the definitive authority.
 
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Old May 3, 2021 | 12:31 PM
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They usually have steel camshaft gears, which is a plus.

I would use one, as they are made to last. Just compare water pumps and bolts when switching out, if you need to switch out the water pump.
 
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Old May 3, 2021 | 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 68Flareside240
There is no difference other than some industrials having a steel crank, and maybe an HD exhaust manifold.
X2 what 68Flareside240 said. There is no difference with the blocks untill you get to the efi years, 88 and newer. And then the only difference is that Ford changed the diameter of the cam journals and the slot for the manual fuel pump is cast over. The efi heads have diff. chambers, diff. valve lengths, and if I remember, they have an extra hole for either the exhaust manifold or the intake. Can't remember which.

When they say 'steel' crank they mean forged, and those are as good as gold in certain circles but extremely rare and hard to find. I doubt your industrial engines have one, but could be. Good luck. There is a thread on Fordsix about forged cranks. All Ford oe connecting rods for the 300 ARE forged.
 
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Old May 3, 2021 | 07:23 PM
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wow thanks for all the great information guys, I will be switching out the motors next week then. I think i will go ahead and replace the water pump and stat also while at it
 
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Forged, that’s the word I was looking for ha. There’s a good Engine Masters episode of a buildup on an industrial six. Intake/exhaust/cam and some valve work really opens them up. Lots of little tips and tricks out there to pep it up. I think the beefed up cranks and exhaust only came in the medium duty trucks, but some industrials got them too. There’s an easy way to ID the cranks, but you’ll have to search for it, I can’t recall the marking. Never know what’s inside til you crack it open.
 
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There are also a couple of episodes of "Engine Power" where they take one and beef it up.


1 https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...300-inline-six

2 https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...needs-upgrades

3 https://www.powernationtv.com/episod...zin-half-dozen

I think the industrials also have a steel cam gear instead of the fiber/composite ones.
 
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Don't order a w/pump from the efi years, 88-96, unless that is what you have. They used the serpentine belts and the pump spun in reverse of the V belt type pumps. I just replaced the thermostat in mine. I cheaped out a year ago and used the inexpensive O'reilley's name brand and it lasted a few months. Go with the MotorCraft brand. I had to surface my t.housing with sandpaper wrapped around a 2x4 to get it flat so it would seal. I also stuck the thermostat into its recessed area on the housing, and coasted the gasket with rubber cement. Then I stuck it on the housing and let it dry so it would hold the t.stat in place and not allow it to slip out when I mounted the housing. I always have trouble with it moving for some reason. The books says 198*, but that's up to you. Good luck.
 
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The stock Motorcraft for my 300 is a 192°. Did they change that?
 
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The stock Motorcraft for my 300 is a 192°. Did they change that?
I went with a 192* as well. I believe the book says 198*, but I couldn't find that.
 
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