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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 01:06 AM
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Emissions Label

So I am trying to register my truck in CA (purchased from Missouri), and the DMV is requiring an Emissions Label. The other issue is I have a straight pipe/no CAT. I was told if I could provide documentation from the dealer that states my truck came factory without a CAT (which is did) or could produce an emissions label that states "mom catalyst" that I wild not need to get a CAT installed...

Ive called Ford Dealership on several occasions requesting an emissions label or even an Oasis Report so I could get a label created, but each time I'm told that Ford Dealership does not carry any information on vehicles older than 20yrs... I just want it registered at this point, but I'd love if I didn't have to get a CAT installed...

Does anyone have any information on a situation like this/where I could get documentation proving my truck came factory without a CAT?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 01:19 AM
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What year is the truck?

Is there no label under the hood? Will look like this.

On edit: a VIN will help research. Worst case scenario get the right color hood with a sticker at the junk yard.

 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 06:37 AM
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Ebay is your friend if you need it!

The right hand valve cover (passenger side) has the emissions label on it as well and ebay is full of used valve covers. You must ask the seller to provide a close-up picture of the label. There it will be listed, "TC", CAC", "OC", etc. You DO NOT want the label to say, "OC" because that means "oxidizing catalyst". The color matters too. For example, green is 2000 and bright orange is 2002. I believe 1999 is maroon, but I don't have one of those in front of me. You want to make sure the color matches the year.

If you already have that sticker on your valve cover it should suffice. Just show the inspector that.....if yours says "oc" then you're going to neet a catalytic converter or find a valve cover that denotes otherwise. There is no rhyme or reason as to which vehicles were equipped with catalytic converters and which ones weren't.

Good luck with the communism.

 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Ebay is your friend if you need it!

The right hand valve cover (passenger side) has the emissions label on it as well and ebay is full of used valve covers. You must ask the seller to provide a close-up picture of the label. There it will be listed, "TC", CAC", "OC", etc. You DO NOT want the label to say, "OC" because that means "oxidizing catalyst". The color matters too. For example, green is 2000 and bright orange is 2002. I believe 1999 is maroon, but I don't have one of those in front of me. You want to make sure the color matches the year.

If you already have that sticker on your valve cover it should suffice. Just show the inspector that.....if yours says "oc" then you're going to neet a catalytic converter or find a valve cover that denotes otherwise. There is no rhyme or reason as to which vehicles were equipped with catalytic converters and which ones weren't.

Good luck with the communism.
Thank you for the help. I was able to find the label on my passenger Valve cover and it matches the description you gave (Orange/2002) Under emissions control system is says, "ECM, TI, DI, CAC." What do those mean? Also it states on the label that, "The Engine is also certified for sale in California new vehicles rated above 14,000 pounds.... This engine is OBO II Exempt."

Does that mean I'm good without CAT?

Thanks again.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:15 PM
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That means you're good to go without the catalytic converter.

Electronic Control Module, TI (not 100% sure but I think it SHOULD be "TC" for Turbocharger) , Direct Injection, Charge Air Cooler.

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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dgilly
"The Engine is also certified for sale in California new vehicles rated above 14,000 pounds.... This engine is OBO II Exempt."

Does that mean I'm good without CAT?.
If your truck is over 14,000 lbs GVWR, then yes.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
Electronic Control Module, TI (not 100% sure but I bet Y2KW57 knows - I bet it's Turbocharged Induction though) , Direct Injection, Charge Air Cooler.
The label probably doesn't say "TI"

@Dgilly may have thrown up that alphabet soup after having to suddenly digest it all at once when moving to the land of gold poppies and golden gate bridges to nowhere.

Most likely, the label says TC instead, which you of course already solved. TurboCharger.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:39 PM
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Sorry about editing my post before you got around to responding, bud.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
EDIT: 6000 posts. Holy buckets.
Not too much longer before all hell breaks loose, as what happened to me just a couple of days ago...



 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 09:46 PM
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At the rate I post, It'll be almost 2 years before I get that far.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2021 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
At the rate I post, It'll be almost 2 years before I get that far.
I was right there with ya, but once I agreed to sweep and mop the floors, take out the trash, and trim the roses, my daily post count literally doubled, and a lot of those posts aren't even visible.

@Dgilly never mind Cody and I playing a round of tennis in your thread. We are just bumping your thread while your green light is on, waiting for you to come back and tell us what model of truck you have, because your tactics will hinge on that GVWR.

What you earlier said about Ford not providing a new VECI label unless 20 years or newer didn't make sense, since you have a 19 year old truck. But I confirmed with a local parts department that the look back time period where Ford will cooperate is now 13 years. I had this happen a few years ago with a 1994 Ford cab chassis model, and I was successful in getting a new label directly from International, the engine supplier, but that was before Volkswagen bought International, so I don't know what changes have taken place since then in terms of corporate data or policies on dispensing the informational goods.
 
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Old Apr 27, 2021 | 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by cleatus12r
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Twice your limit, and twice blessed are we.

Dgilly: shoot us a pic of the sticker. Also, do you have the underhood sticker?
 
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