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Thank you for your point of view. I can use the reese goose pin box, The max weight is 20,000. The pin box on the camper now is 21,000 lbs. It has a trail air pin box with the air bag and shock.I look at a demco recon goose mount hitch but the hitch weight max is 4,000 lbs. The camper has 3,300 lbs dry weight hitch weight.
I'm not going to argue over syntax, but head over to some of the RV forums and read user first accounts of them getting screwed over by using the Andersen hitch when they experienced failure.
At the end of the day, these hitches DO NOT hold up to hard use with heavy 5ers. At the end of the day, many RV's will leave you SOL for using this hardware if frame damage occurs.
Please do some real research yourself. I have no dog in this fight.
Can you link to any of these failures? I've got my 2022 F350 on order and am planning to go with the Andersen when it arrives. I've probably spent a hundred hours researching different hitches and only came across one failure from when someone was in an accident and the hitch deformed. I just googled some more and can't find anything. If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
I'm not worried about the warranty side of things but would be concerned if there really have been a lot of documented failures.
Can you link to any of these failures? I've got my 2022 F350 on order and am planning to go with the Andersen when it arrives. I've probably spent a hundred hours researching different hitches and only came across one failure from when someone was in an accident and the hitch deformed. I just googled some more and can't find anything. If you could point me in the right direction I would appreciate it.
I'm not worried about the warranty side of things but would be concerned if there really have been a lot of documented failures.
That's exactly what I mean. That first picture has been floating around forever with no explanation. The thread you linked says as much. I have come across that second one but it looks like it failed during a collision. Lots of damage there beyond just the hitch.
I'm not totally set on the Andersen yet, but it sounds like it's helps with clearance for a short bed truck and might be a good option for me. I've seen some fearmongering on Andersen failures and warranty claims, but can't find any real examples with detail of that happening. It feels like some folks just hate those hitches for some reason and make a narrative to fit.
If you search google images many more instances show up with what look like different rigs.
Others posted up smashed windows from using it with a short bed, so they might not solve the auto slide problem either.
With a lightweight fiver you'd probably be fine, but for my family I'd want something more stout if I had a large 15k+ lb trailer attached. Especially in the event of an accident.
I have nothing against them, but seeing those taco'd hitches doesn't inspire confidence...
Andersen has redesigned their hitch, it was about 5-6 years ago, they made it LOTS stronger and also made it lighter, and they back it with the best warranty and customer service in the industry.
I have never had any strength issues with mine, my only issue with it is as I said, the fact that side to side roll stability isn't as good since the trailer is connected on a ball instead of a large flat 5th wheel plate, other than that it is great and plenty strong.
As to lippert and their warranty, lippert doesn't like anything that they don't build or own a piece of.
If you search google images many more instances show up with what look like different rigs.
Others posted up smashed windows from using it with a short bed, so they might not solve the auto slide problem either.
With a lightweight fiver you'd probably be fine, but for my family I'd want something more stout if I had a large 15k+ lb trailer attached. Especially in the event of an accident.
I have nothing against them, but seeing those taco'd hitches doesn't inspire confidence...
What ever you do "for your family" make sure you dont get a husky
Or a reese
Or one of them expensive cushioned hitches
OMG and dont even get a B&W, doesn't inspire confidence seeing them bent up like that.
You can find pictures of hitch failures for most any brand. But man if people find one of an Andersen its OMG dont buy one
They fail all the time, not true
They void your warranty, again NOT TRUE
These claims always seem to come from people that have never owned an Andersen but are determined to make sure the whole world knows how bad they are based on their opinions and with little to no facts.
I have no dog in this fight either, I am running one of the other bent up brands.
I did a lot of research on the Anderson hitch before I decided to buy a Curt Q25. The 3 reasons I decided against the Anderson hitch were: 1) I didn't want to modify pin box, 2) If there were frame issues I would have to go through Anderson for repairs, not Keystone & 3) Fully loaded the estimated weight of my TT is 18,000 lbs. During my researched I found Anderson failures where mainly due to 2 issues, incorrectly installed hitches and failure to install the lock out kit. Like anything, if it's properly installed and properly used it's probably a great product.
I just found out today, that I have the Keystone frame flex issue with my 5th wheel. When I dropped my TT off at a factory specified repair shop, the first thing the shop did was take pictures of my hitch. I thought that was kind of interesting. I'm happy that I get to deal directly with Keystone & don't have to worry about going through a 3rd party to get my TT fixed.
I did a lot of research on the Anderson hitch before I decided to buy a Curt Q25. The 3 reasons I decided against the Anderson hitch were: 1) I didn't want to modify pin box, 2) If there were frame issues I would have to go through Anderson for repairs, not Keystone & 3) Fully loaded the estimated weight of my TT is 18,000 lbs. During my researched I found Anderson failures where mainly due to 2 issues, incorrectly installed hitches and failure to install the lock out kit. Like anything, if it's properly installed and properly used it's probably a great product.
I just found out today, that I have the Keystone frame flex issue with my 5th wheel. When I dropped my TT off at a factory specified repair shop, the first thing the shop did was take pictures of my hitch. I thought that was kind of interesting. I'm happy that I get to deal directly with Keystone & don't have to worry about going through a 3rd party to get my TT fixed.
Even with the Andersen you could have taken it straight to Keystone. My old Cougar got its frame repaired under warranty and I proudly took it in behind an Andersen The picture of the hitch does nothing, they would need to show how the Andersen specifically caused the frame flex in the warranty denial. Considering your non Andersen caused it, might be tough to prove another brand did. Also if they did deny it Andersen would help you out. Not going to be the case with many of the other hitch makers.
This is one of those dreaded gooseneck adapters they said for years would bend the frame and put pressure in the wrong places and void your warranty.
Oh wait this one is new and approved by lippert. You know why, because lippert makes money on it so its ok to use this type...but just this one. Because they know all they have to do is get the frame out of the 1 to 2 year warranty and most any hitch can do that.
I am not saying anything about what you choose or didnt choose. We all choose different things for different reasoning, I personally run a B&W after towing with an Andersen for many trouble free years.
Lippert no longer will warranty frame issues if you use an Anderson hitch. If you have problems, you will need to go through Anderson first. I suspect since Anderson is a good company they will stand behind their product. Just make sure you lock out the pin box. I'm happy with my Curt hitch. I ordered the B&W then ended up canceling it it due to delays in shipping.
I've had an Anderson since 6/17, logging about 30K miles, towing a 5er, that weighed 18K last time across the scales.
Only problem I've had was with the Moryde pinbox. The plate with the pin was starting to bow. I didn't notice it myself,
I read about it on an RV forum and Moryde already had a beefier plate/pin to replace it. Yeah, it was on my dime,
but, better safe than sorry.
I've had an Anderson since 6/17, logging about 30K miles, towing a 5er, that weighed 18K last time across the scales.
Only problem I've had was with the Moryde pinbox. The plate with the pin was starting to bow. I didn't notice it myself,
I read about it on an RV forum and Moryde already had a beefier plate/pin to replace it. Yeah, it was on my dime,
but, better safe than sorry.
Which Moryde Pinbox did you have? The rubber pinbox?
I've been using an Andersen for 4 years with a 14,000# trailer and about 20K miles. No problems with the hitch whatsoever. I wouldn't hesitate to get one again.
I would like to thank everyone for there input on fifth wheel hitches. I purchased a B&W Companion RVK3305. This will be may first fifth wheel camper and I like the Andersen. But, the toy hauler has a trail air 21,000 pin box with the air bag and shock. I'm not sure how it ride with the Andersen pin box hook-up. Again, Thank You Everyone.(Craig 2017 f350 dually crewcab longbed.