Future Toy Hauler prep
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There are a lot of people that fit that description. Ignorance is bliss. Ignorance is also dangerous. Fortunately, you're one of the smart ones that asked before taking a very expensive leap.
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What is “over loaded”? There could be a huge discrepancy between what the ICC (Internet Camper Cops) says and what is real. Does anyone on here really KNOW what is and is not? Or is it just what has been read and repeated over the internet until it is common knowlrdge?
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From: Tulare U.S.A.
What is “over loaded”? There could be a huge discrepancy between what the ICC (Internet Camper Cops) says and what is real. Does anyone on here really KNOW what is and is not? Or is it just what has been read and repeated over the internet until it is common knowlrdge?
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The number don't lie, you have two that you need to worry about. The first is your vehicles tow weight. The second is how much weight your vehicle can haul. None of this is rocket science, go to your local scale with your vehicle and trailer loaded and weigh it. I guarantee thats what the State troopers are going to do if they think your over loaded.
Its not. The LAW cares about axle and tire loading, not manufacturer tow ratings. The vehicle specific tow rating isn't even shown on a vehicle, but the tire and axle weight ratings are.
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The number don't lie, you have two that you need to worry about. The first is your vehicles tow weight. The second is how much weight your vehicle can haul. None of this is rocket science, go to your local scale with your vehicle and trailer loaded and weigh it. I guarantee thats what the State troopers are going to do if they think your over loaded.
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From: Tulare U.S.A.
The vehicle avaliable load rating is on the sticker on the door. And as far as the tow rating it's ready available on the internet. If you get in a wreck where the state troopers are involved and you think they won't look the tow rating up you might want to think again. I have seen it personally.
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The vehicle avaliable load rating is on the sticker on the door. And as far as the tow rating it's ready available on the internet. If you get in a wreck where the state troopers are involved and you think they won't look the tow rating up you might want to think again. I have seen it personally.
Show me something different, please. If it isn’t LAW it is meaningless.
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I'm not sure where your getting that the factory tow rating can be ignored from the link you posted, but hey do what you want. I have seen first hand that the CHPs use the factory tow ratings. Maybe other states they are more lenient. .
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Neither of the stickers on the door frame list the GCWR. All you'll get is the axle ratings and the GVWR.
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[QUOTE=HRTKD;19843333]Out in the field, it would be very difficult for an office to figure out what your GCWR is. It's difficult enough for the average truck owner to figure out the GCWR sitting in front of a computer. I had to figure mine out by deduction
Neither of the stickers on the door frame list the GCWR. All you'll get is the axle ratings and the GVWR.
You don't have scale where you live? Because that's where the CHP will escort you to if they are in doubt if you are over loaded. Also you don't need to know the GCWR to know if the GVW of trailer you are towing is too heavy for tow rating of the truck you are towing it with. You don't need the GCWR to know if your truck is
overloaded because the allowable weight is on the door sticker.
Look we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this, but everyone reading this knows the right thing to do, the weight ratings are their for a reason, fine or no fine. I'm out.
Neither of the stickers on the door frame list the GCWR. All you'll get is the axle ratings and the GVWR.
You don't have scale where you live? Because that's where the CHP will escort you to if they are in doubt if you are over loaded. Also you don't need to know the GCWR to know if the GVW of trailer you are towing is too heavy for tow rating of the truck you are towing it with. You don't need the GCWR to know if your truck is
overloaded because the allowable weight is on the door sticker.
Look we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this, but everyone reading this knows the right thing to do, the weight ratings are their for a reason, fine or no fine. I'm out.
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You don't have scale where you live? Because that's where the CHP will escort you to if they are in doubt if you are over loaded. Also you don't need to know the GCWR to know if the GVW of trailer you are towing is too heavy for tow rating of the truck you are towing it with. You don't need the GCWR to know if your truck is
overloaded because the allowable weight is on the door sticker.
Look we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this, but everyone reading this knows the right thing to do, the weight ratings are their for a reason, fine or no fine. I'm out.
overloaded because the allowable weight is on the door sticker.
Look we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this, but everyone reading this knows the right thing to do, the weight ratings are their for a reason, fine or no fine. I'm out.
Don't get me wrong, I'm one of those that thinks weight ratings are important, for both safety and legal standpoints.
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I don't think I said anything about ignoring the door sticker. I just asked for the actual statute. You dont seem to want to post that. I posted a link to what I could find about any maximum weight limits for all US states. Please post. I have asked this on multiple forums and the result is always the same
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There is a statute in NJ at least . At least when it is a commercial vehicle. I once got a ticket B/C the troopers thought I as overloaded. It was a F250 with a Stellar hooklift and dump body pulling a 20' cargo trailer. They weighted each tire to get the weights, on the side of the road. Got a ticket for overloading the mfr rated rear axle and GVWR and over registered weight. Back then, I registered the truck at 11,000# and registered trailer at 12,000#, or approximately the capabilities of each. Since to combo was well above register weight, got a ticket. So now, I register my trailers at 0 and the trucks at 25,000.
Here is the link to Ford towing guide
https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...owingGuide.pdf
Here is the link to Ford towing guide
https://www.fleet.ford.com/content/d...owingGuide.pdf
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