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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 06:48 PM
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Too Much Squat?

Took our camper out for the first time, the 2018 F350 towed great even with the 6.2 3.73s couple hills it was revving but on flat ground didnt even notice it there. Had a couple people comment that it looks like its squatting too much. So sorry for so many questions on here but does this look like too much squat for about 2200-2400 pin weight? Did just order firestone air bags but want to make sure something wasnt wrong.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 06:52 PM
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Took our camper out for the first time, the 2018 F350 towed great even with the 6.2 3.73s couple hills it was revving but on flat ground didnt even notice it there. Had a couple people comment that it looks like its squatting too much. So sorry for so many questions on here but does this look like too much squat for about 2200-2400 pin weight? Did just order firestone air bags but want to make sure something wasnt wrong.
1. Is it “levelled”? I.E. with a leveling kit?
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Desert Don
1. Is it “levelled”? I.E. with a leveling kit?
negative, all factory
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 07:08 PM
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Next time you're out you should get a cat scale ticket. I bet you're over payload.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 07:17 PM
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Don’t know then. Yeah, my 350 was a dually; but my pin weight is also pushing 4000 and it didn’t squat like that. Around 2.5 inches is all.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by muhford
Next time you're out you should get a cat scale ticket. I bet you're over payload.
Closest one is an hour away but Id like to. Dont see how I could possibly be over payload. Door sticker says 3675 pounds for payload. Everything is factory minus the hitch (150 lbs), family 450 lbs, camper is 1800 lb pin weight empty. One propane tank is empty, one half full, all water tanks are empty. Only things loaded in the front compartments are a couple folding chairs, a portable grill, misc camping equipment (less then 100 lbs), inside theres a weekends worth of clothes and small stuff. Guess Ill really try to get to a scale.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 08:37 PM
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My guess is that when you get actual pin weight vs “advertised” pin weight you might find quite a bit of discrepancy.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 06:26 AM
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The camper looks fairly level which IMO is the important thing. If you raise the truck, you'll be towing a nose-high camper. I'd leave it as-is.

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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 06:59 AM
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If the axle weight numbers are where they should be and the truck rides and handles well I don't think I'd worry about it.

Take another picture with the family in the truck and see if that brings the nose down.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by KU4OJ
If the axle weight numbers are where they should be and the truck rides and handles well I don't think I'd worry about it.

Take another picture with the family in the truck and see if that brings the nose down.
They were in the truck already.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BowlerGT
Closest one is an hour away but Id like to. Dont see how I could possibly be over payload. Door sticker says 3675 pounds for payload. Everything is factory minus the hitch (150 lbs), family 450 lbs, camper is 1800 lb pin weight empty. One propane tank is empty, one half full, all water tanks are empty. Only things loaded in the front compartments are a couple folding chairs, a portable grill, misc camping equipment (less then 100 lbs), inside theres a weekends worth of clothes and small stuff. Guess Ill really try to get to a scale.
Your not overloaded at all. I carry 2800 lbs hitch weight and yeah, mine squats too and I'm not over. I even confirmed with the dealer. It's just the way Ford designs these trucks now. Some guys don't care for the squat and add air bags and bump stops. I believe in leaving as is. Mostly a cosmetic and matter of opinion. Nice looking setup though!
 
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dkegel
The camper looks fairly level which IMO is the important thing. If you raise the truck, you'll be towing a nose-high camper. I'd leave it as-is.
Agreed. The only issue I would have is that the headlights are going to be shining up high. If there isn't any towing at night, then no big deal.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 02:09 PM
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The trailer is not level. And the reason is that the Ford trucks are too damn high. I think that is part of the reason for your squat too.

Can't believe that you are overloaded. You must have 4,000 payload.

You can bring the rear of your truck up with the bags your ordered. That will help the headlight situation. But, your trailer will be even MORE nose high then.
 
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 06:49 PM
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Went and got weighed and here are my numbers. Now this was after work so not completely camp ready, I did not have the kids, propane are about half full and no clothes in the camper but none of that should effect it too much.

 
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Old Apr 12, 2021 | 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by acadianbob
The trailer is not level. And the reason is that the Ford trucks are too damn high. I think that is part of the reason for your squat too.

Can't believe that you are overloaded. You must have 4,000 payload.

You can bring the rear of your truck up with the bags your ordered. That will help the headlight situation. But, your trailer will be even MORE nose high then.
Agree the truck is squatting and trailer looks level. I had the same issue with this my F250 and my 5th wheel. Timbrens then airbags cured the truck then the trailer was nose high. I had/have a Anderson Ultimate Hitch that I could adjust how high the noes of the trailer was.
If the hitch height can be adjusted that would cure that.
 
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