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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 08:17 AM
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I've got a 351w in a 70F100. Fresh motor from builder. 600 Holley double pumper and MSD distributor. Also has 302 heads on it cause the valve train was better than the stock 351. When I floor it, backfires, but doesn't die. If I roll into it slow, it revs fine. Engine builder thought too much carb. I put a 600 Edelbrock on it last night. Same thing. It had after market HEI on it. Swapped it for MSD cause I thought it was causing the backfire and it didn't seem to stay timed.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 10:17 AM
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I have a similar setup (351w, 570 Holley, Full MSD ignition) but mine runs great. You definitely have a tuning issue and I would start first using a vacuum gauge to get everything set up. You no longer have a stock setup so the Ford manual is a good starting point but not the final word. Check YouTube for videos on tuning using a vacuum gauge. They are inexpensive but indespencable for tuning a non-stock setup.
 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by davelj
I have a similar setup (351w, 570 Holley, Full MSD ignition) but mine runs great. You definitely have a tuning issue and I would start first using a vacuum gauge to get everything set up. You no longer have a stock setup so the Ford manual is a good starting point but not the final word. Check YouTube for videos on tuning using a vacuum gauge. They are inexpensive but indespencable for tuning a non-stock setup.
Thanks. I've got a vac gauge. Had the Holley rebuilt by a local carb guy. He tuned it on a 350, said it ran fine. I'll be checking stuff out this afternoon.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 07:56 PM
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Sorry I took so long to get back here. Issue was firing order. Hydraulic flat tappet cam. I needed to use the 302 flat tappet cam firing order. Ran great for 20 miles. Distributor gear got eaten, along with 2 bent pushrods. I'm on third MSD distributor. The one that got eaten, the replacement one with ring terminals that made me go huh? And finally one that had all the stickers, catalogs and stuff. Now it rattles.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 08:25 PM
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The reason the gears are getting eaten is most likely wrong gear type. You have to match the gear to the cam. Some cams require a broken gear where other want a a cast one. The only other thing that might cause it is a bad oil pump. I would look at the cam specs and see what it says to run.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 08:37 PM
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Wrong gear material is one reason. Distributor not fully seated is another. I've talked to my builder, out comes my motor to get checked out before I grenade a rod through the block. Better safe than sorry! The gear that got trashed should have been cast iron to go with the flat tappet cam. I've got some phone calls to make to get things sorted out.
 
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Good idea.
 
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Old May 25, 2021 | 08:46 PM
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Yup. Just really busy now. Might be able to yank it next week. I hope.
 
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Yup. Just really busy now. Might be able to yank it next week. I hope.
 
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just because it is a flat tappet cam doesn't necessarily mean it requires a cast iron gear. What the cam is made out of makes the difference. If it is steel then it needs a steel or bronze gear. If it is cast iron (like stock) then you should run a cast iron or bronze gear. Bronze will work for both but wears a bit faster. Sounds like your cam is steel.
 
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