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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 05:53 AM
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Glad to have you on our little corner of the web, IDI.

Couple of things to share:

Thats an good, honest truck you've got there.

The water pumps for the H Series 226, which it looks like you have, are not reproduced. There are a number of rebuild shops around. Tom may know of one in the Northeast, otherwise consider Cowboy John in Florida. https://cowboyjohnsautoparts.com/

The thermostat housing is also not reproduced and is helpfully prone to cracking. Be gentle.

It appears that the truck started life with a V8 as the battery tray is on the DS. If you are willing to share the serial number- we do this routinely - the smarter folks can do the little decoding possible.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FortyNiner
Glad to have you on our little corner of the web, IDI.

Couple of things to share:

Thats an good, honest truck you've got there.

The water pumps for the H Series 226, which it looks like you have, are not reproduced. There are a number of rebuild shops around. Tom may know of one in the Northeast, otherwise consider Cowboy John in Florida. https://cowboyjohnsautoparts.com/

The thermostat housing is also not reproduced and is helpfully prone to cracking. Be gentle.

It appears that the truck started life with a V8 as the battery tray is on the DS. If you are willing to share the serial number- we do this routinely - the smarter folks can do the little decoding possible.
Interesting about the battery tray thinking it was a v8, I hope it wasn't for the fact it's not a v8 now!! I haven't found the serial number on the frame yet, but the glove box tag has this...

 
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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 07:27 PM
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There is only a 5 HP difference between the 226 I6 and the 238 V8 (95 vs 100). The I6 is a rugged mill - never had the cool factor of the V8s but it has a solid charm to many, including me.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 38 coupe
I'll include my somewhat late welcome to this site. The generator on your engine looks like a later 12V unit already. Take some good pictures on how it is mounted, and go get a good 12V generator. Actually, make sure the voltage regulator isn't the problem first. Ford started 12V generators in 56 and most of the 56 and later generators look like what is on your engine.
all the wires are cut off it and when at driving speed I get a terrible whining sound. Haven't been able to hear it parked but my first thought was it's the generator and the previous owner cut the wires and the bearings are bad. I read there's a oiling point on them
 
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Old Mar 29, 2021 | 09:17 PM
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Interesting about the battery tray thinking it was a v8, I hope it wasn't for the fact it's not a v8 now!! I haven't found the serial number on the frame yet, but the glove box tag has this...


The forensic research of these old trucks is fascinating, and a lot of fun. That tag didn't come original to your truck. It's from a 51. Interesting in that the top of the tag should be tucked under the door hinges and the serial number has been scratched out. It's hard to say why at this point. Model 1HY would be a 1951 6 cylinder equipped F3. The serial (engine) number appears to start with F3H1, which would verify that, along with the model code in the lower right corner, 1HY.

Do you have a title with the truck? Assuming you have papers with the truck, what is the number listed? The serial number of a '50 F3 with a 6 cylinder should start with 97HY. Finding the frame number could prove interesting. Is there a tag on the firewall, near the hood hinge at the upper left as you look under the hood? What does it say? There should also be some hand stamped letters/numbers on the firewall near the cowl seam. That's the truck's production code. If you can find and post that we can decode that for you, too.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 03:53 AM
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Hi IDI and welcome to my screen, I have a 51 M3 in my shed in process, I just pulled the rear axle on mine along with front brake assemblies.
It has 12" front and 14" rear brakes, these are for sale,drums have never been turned.
I will be installing F1 front brakes a ford 9"er in the rear. This truck had a stock 8' box with a dump assembly, twas a "grain truck" I am removing the hoist and putting the bed back on the frame.
This truck came with a crash box, its gone and a T98(4 sp.sycro from a F5) is going in its plc.
Its nice to see another tonner getting fixed up,my truck had 18 leafs pur side in rear, little much for a cruiser,plus no shocks in the back.
These folks here gave/shared the knowledge For me to do these things,like what fits what dont.
I bought a Dana 60 the correct width,the changed my mind for the 9.
Good luck and thanks for sharing .
Greg
 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 05:16 AM
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The forensic research of these old trucks is fascinating, and a lot of fun. That tag didn't come original to your truck. It's from a 51. Interesting in that the top of the tag should be tucked under the door hinges and the serial number has been scratched out. It's hard to say why at this point. Model 1HY would be a 1951 6 cylinder equipped F3. The serial (engine) number appears to start with F3H1, which would verify that, along with the model code in the lower right corner, 1HY.

Do you have a title with the truck? Assuming you have papers with the truck, what is the number listed? The serial number of a '50 F3 with a 6 cylinder should start with 97HY. Finding the frame number could prove interesting. Is there a tag on the firewall, near the hood hinge at the upper left as you look under the hood? What does it say? There should also be some hand stamped letters/numbers on the firewall near the cowl seam. That's the truck's production code. If you can find and post that we can decode that for you, too.
No title with this truck but in Vermont you don't need it after a truck is 15 years old. Bummer to not have it but I can still register it. There's a firewall tag but it's pretty worn out. This was a farm truck and my guess is the old owner pieced parts from other 51's on it. The guy I bought it from had 2 other 51 parts trucks.

 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 06:18 PM
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Is it normal to have two sets of spring perches?

10 leaf front springs. Is that correct for an F3?

Very hard to make out the firewall tag

Looks to be a stock battery tray location
 
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Old Mar 30, 2021 | 07:10 PM
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Something's definitely been altered on that rear axle and spring mounts. Front springs had either 8 or 9 leaves. You may be counting the caster shim as a leaf, can't tell for sure in that pic. The battery tray looks correct for a V8 truck. 6 cylinders had a mirror image tray on the other side of the engine compartment.

I have never seen a patent plate, the firewall tag, like that without the serial number stamped on it. The letters SOM would refer to the assembly plant, Somerville, Mass. It would still be interesting to see the production code stamping on the firewall. Keep looking for the frame stamp, too.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 04:11 PM
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Can someone point out in their truck where the serial number on the cowl is? I just searched and can't find any trace of a stamping.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2021 | 05:07 PM
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Here’s one of mine on a ‘51. Sometimes they are stamped more lightly and you have to scrub. Stu



 
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Old Apr 1, 2021 | 11:50 AM
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It's not the serial number, it's the production code that's stamped into the firewall. Different plants stamped the trucks in different ways. Typically it's found either above or below the cowl seam across the firewall. A few plants stamped the number near the wire bundle hole.





 
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Old Apr 11, 2021 | 06:54 PM
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Damn, I searched the firewall and pinch seam and can't find any stamping. I was driving the truck around the yard and lost brake power. Turns out the driver rear brake cylinder is leaking. Add that to the list of repairs. Guess I need to determine what rear axle I have or pull the busted cylinder to get a replacement. Does Napa still carry these?
At this point I'm going to say this truck is a mismatch of parts from a F3 and F1 and the VIN or factory code is long gone. Luckily in Vermont I can have the state issue a new Vin and title for when its ready to be registered and road driven.
 
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Old May 7, 2021 | 08:45 AM
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Hey guys I’m new to this and need some help I have a 1950 f68 I believe is a one ton truck it has a 1977 inline 6 300 ci engine out of a Ford truck runs really good but I would like to upgrade brakes all four corners so I can feel good about my son driving this someday soon it’s an 8 lug truck and I’m having a hard time locating a conversion kit for it any help would be really appreciated guy thanks in advance
 
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Old May 7, 2021 | 08:52 AM
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Also trying to identify my rear end not sure if it’s a ford 8 inch or 9 inch ?



 
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