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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 11:10 AM
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I sort of quickly scrolled through the 2nd half of this post, but I did have a front coil spring pop out of the bucket after some work at the dealer. When I left the dealer I noticed my steering wheel was off center and unfortunately had an important meeting I had to get to so I did not turn around. How this happened, I have absolutely no idea. My truck was in for an oil change and the door lock warranty repair.


 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by fleming23
I sort of quickly scrolled through the 2nd half of this post, but I did have a front coil spring pop out of the bucket after some work at the dealer. When I left the dealer I noticed my steering wheel was off center and unfortunately had an important meeting I had to get to so I did not turn around. How this happened, I have absolutely no idea. My truck was in for an oil change and the door lock warranty repair.

The OP is concerned about the coil actually ejecting out from the vehicle, but yours does show that the coil can be unseated under the right circumstances. Did you make a thread on it awhile back? I recall seeing photos in a thread some time back, the thread starter was wondering how the coil spring came unseated on the truck.

Strange that the coil was disturbed enough during a simple oil change, enough to not re-seat as it was lowered down. The dealer I have gone to doesn't use a post lift to do oil chages, so the suspension is never at full droop during the service. Imagine how many dealers do have these trucks on post lifts day after day with out this happening.

......one scenario I could see that would allow the coil spring to come unseated like that under full droop would be, using a longer travel shock without also using a spacer lift or longer coil spring.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by fleming23
I sort of quickly scrolled through the 2nd half of this post, but I did have a front coil spring pop out of the bucket after some work at the dealer. When I left the dealer I noticed my steering wheel was off center and unfortunately had an important meeting I had to get to so I did not turn around. How this happened, I have absolutely no idea. My truck was in for an oil change and the door lock warranty repair.

I see you're running aftermarket shocks, are they longer than stock? I'm wondering if they allowed the axle to droop too far and the coil to unseat.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 05:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Pugga
I see you're running aftermarket shocks, are they longer than stock? I'm wondering if they allowed the axle to droop too far and the coil to unseat.
That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Springs are too long. Doesn't that also mean that at full compression of the suspension, those shocks are going to bottom out too soon?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
That's exactly what I was going to suggest. Springs are too long. Doesn't that also mean that at full compression of the suspension, those shocks are going to bottom out too soon?
Springs wouldn't be too long, did you mean shocks? The trucks come with something like 7.25" travel shock up front, maybe less. A shock with 1" more travel still doesn't come close to bottoming out. But you can see how 1" additional travel could be enough to allow the coil to unseat without a spacer or longer than stock coil.

 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
Springs wouldn't be too long, did you mean shocks? The trucks come with something like 7.25" travel shock up front, maybe less. A shock with 1" more travel still doesn't come close to bottoming out. But you can see how 1" additional travel could be enough to allow the coil to unseat without a spacer or longer than stock coil.
Yeah, meant shock. Got it right in the last sentence though.
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 10:06 PM
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Hmm interesting he almost lost a coil, I was told it shouldn't happen. If he has aftermarket shocks that meet oem dimensions, then they shouldn't be longer,......correct?
 
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Old Mar 17, 2021 | 10:37 PM
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Originally Posted by jimzpsd
Hmm interesting he almost lost a coil, I was told it shouldn't happen. If he has aftermarket shocks that meet oem dimensions, then they shouldn't be longer,......correct?
Hmm, the coil came unseated from dealer service, the front axle likely being at full droop, AND he doesn't have factory shocks which has been reiterated in this thread as being a limiting factor. I obviously can't say with 100% certainty which FOX 2.0 shocks he was running, but if I were a betting man I would guess their shock for 0"-1.5" applications, 985-24-154. That happens to be their shortest travel shock available for the front of these trucks, and provides approximately .75"+ more travel than the factory shocks. So to answer your question, if he had shocks of the same travel as the OEM (which he didn't), then correct, that shouldn't happen......now if he comes back and says he had a spacer or lift coils, then I'll be surprised.

The fact of the matter is that the shocks are the limiting factor. You seem to be looking for a problem that isn't a problem, I'm curious why? Is it an ocd thing?
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 08:14 AM
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No ocd at all, but if a truck can simply be raised on a hoist and we have the risk of a coil coming loose....... I'm honestly surprised that there is no hardware securing the coils to the chassis, I found it odd,....... thats all. Pardon me for coming here and starting this topic, wasn't looking for a shoving match.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 09:23 AM
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This isn't an unusual design. The shock it what limits travel and keeps the spring captured. A bone stock truck won't lose a spring just by lifting it from the frame. Change the shocks or anything else and all bets are off.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by jimzpsd
No ocd at all, but if a truck can simply be raised on a hoist and we have the risk of a coil coming loose....... I'm honestly surprised that there is no hardware securing the coils to the chassis, I found it odd,....... thats all. Pardon me for coming here and starting this topic, wasn't looking for a shoving match.
I'm with you. When I replaced my shocks I looked at the spring and thought, "What keeps the spring from coming off the perch?"
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
I'm with you. When I replaced my shocks I looked at the spring and thought, "What keeps the spring from coming off the perch?"
And then...? Did you fab something, add limit straps or some other solution to ease your mind, or did you just accept that your shocks keep the coil from simply falling out and understand that its a non issue?

Its not unique to the SD, I'm sure that you know that. RAM is the same, just to name one. In fact the 2500 has front and rear coils that are not held by any additional hardware or clips.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
And then...? Did you fab something, add limit straps or some other solution to ease your mind, or did you just accept that your shocks keep the coil from simply falling out and understand that its a non issue?

Its not unique to the SD, I'm sure that you know that. RAM is the same, just to name one. In fact the 2500 has front and rear coils that are not held by any additional hardware or clips.
I put some bubble gum on the bottom of the springs. Seems to be working so far.

I replaced the OEM shocks with Rancho 9000XL shocks that are spec'd for stock height. My truck doesn't see off-road situations beyond the typical BLM and Forest Service dirt roads. So I don't expect a problem.
 
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Old Mar 18, 2021 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by HRTKD
I put some bubble gum on the bottom of the springs. Seems to be working so far.
😁 Ahh yes, the old bubble gum on the coil spring fix 👍🏻.
 
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