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Old Feb 28, 2021 | 07:18 PM
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Falken had a price increase of 8% late last month. I forgot exactly when it went into effect but most brands did at the same time. $350 a tire for a 275/6520 sounds super steep. I'd have to check the computer at work tomorrow and see just how far out that really is.

My shop is actually a Falken dealer now for about 2 years. We stumbled on the brand after getting a few requests for them and now the AT3W is pretty much the only A/T truck tire we sell, and every one we sell comes back with a great review.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2021 | 07:50 PM
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I have had F250s and F350s from 2008 to present. I am in Mississippi so no real ice and snow experience. My below review is related to experience unloaded and towing. Michelin LTX AT2 stock 20” OEM on many SD trucks are smooth and great on the road with no noise. The Michelins left me stuck on wet grass and in mud many times. BFG ATs are smooth and great on the road with a little hum that increases with wear only audible with the radio off. BFG ATs are great in soft ground and decent in mud. Goodyear AT/S are smooth and great on the road with very little noise. They are slightly worse than BFGs in the soft stuff. Goodyear Duratracs on my new Tremor are smooth and great on the road with slightly more noise than BFGs that I am sure will get louder with wear. They are slightly better than the BFGs in the soft stuff and even better in mud. They dig more than the BFGs. I would rate these tires I have run for all terrain purposes - 1 BFGs, 2 Duratracs, 3 GY AT/S, 4 Michelins. The Michelins are more or less a highway tread and do a good job in that role, but the question here is for ATs. I have run Toyo ATs on my lighter trucks and always go back to BFGs on them as well. I do like skinny 35” tires better for added height and less mud on the side of my truck. I have run 295/65R20 and 285/75r18 on stock trucks and wheels with no rubbing. Both sizes are very close at around 35” in diameter and 11.6” width. They also maintain high weight ratings at over 4,000lbs per tire as compared to 35/12.50s that usually have lower weight ratings. I have not found any if these tires to feel less planted due to softer or stiffer sidewalls. I do run them at max psi when towing. I only have a couple hours towing a 12,000 lbs fifth wheel on the Duratracs. They felt identical to the BFGs on the truck I traded towing. I was in heavy wind for about an hour and trailer got pushed around as usual, but the truck felt planted and stable.
 
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Old Feb 28, 2021 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by matt167
Falken had a price increase of 8% late last month. I forgot exactly when it went into effect but most brands did at the same time. $350 a tire for a 275/6520 sounds super steep. I'd have to check the computer at work tomorrow and see just how far out that really is.

My shop is actually a Falken dealer now for about 2 years. We stumbled on the brand after getting a few requests for them and now the AT3W is pretty much the only A/T truck tire we sell, and every one we sell comes back with a great review.
Here is a pic from discount tire website they are a little cheaper with an 18 inch rim not sure why they are so proud of them with a 20 inch rim but that gotta be the most expensive at in that size

 
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Old Feb 28, 2021 | 08:21 PM
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I think there are a few almost-equal good all terrain tires. I prefer the more aggressive hybrid AT. Type of AT tire depends on your terrain and use.

My first top choice is Cooper ST Maxx. General Grabber and BFG KO2 close second. Mastercraft Courser also good. I have never tried Toyo or Nitto but hear good things. There is always someone with a bad experience with what is usually a good product.

I think Cooper ST Maxx is best. STMaxx has larger voids and better lateral rain grove. ST Maxx is slightly softer rubber than KO2 so slightly better on hard pack frozen snow or ice. ST Maxx seems smoother on highway. ST Maxx traction still seems good when tread passes half-life. KO2 traction declines a lot past half-life. KO2 will dig and chug in deep stuff a little better when tread is new. ST Maxx lacks a few larger popular sizes. I am on my second set of ST Maxx and plan to get them again.
how is the road noise on the maxx vs bfg?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye71
Here is a pic from discount tire website they are a little cheaper with an 18 inch rim not sure why they are so proud of them with a 20 inch rim but that gotta be the most expensive at in that size
I'd have to look, but it's about $90-100 high per tire.. I bet they are not a dealer for Falken and purposely bump the prices
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 06:17 AM
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I'd have to look, but it's about $90-100 high per tire.. I bet they are not a dealer for Falken and purposely bump the prices
yea let me know I would try them for 250 a tire but 350 is steep
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 06:25 AM
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I started using BFG's back in the early 80's, no matter where I lived on the frozen tundra or the desert they filled 95%
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 09:15 AM
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I have had the stock Michelin's and now have Nitto Ridge Grapplers now. Stock size in both 275/65-20. Michelin's were quieter than the NRG, but the NRG are not loud and generally only heard with the radio off. Traction wise, the NRG are better all around. Not much different in the dry from what I can tell, both are good. Wet the NRG are a very noticeable improvement. Also the Michelin's hydroplane much easier than the NRG. Snow, again the NRG are a big improvement, most noticeable is they are able to turn and maintain grip much better. Off road, loose sand not a huge difference, did not have any issues with either, air down, drive sensibly. Wear the NRG look like they are wearing better, I only got ~30K out of the Michelin's but could have got a little more if winter wasn't approaching when I replaced them. Cost was about the same I think, ~$310/tire. Weight, the NRG are a little heavier, I think 3 or 4 lbs per tire. Fuel mileage seems the same, if it's different it's less than .25 mpg.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye71
yea let me know I would try them for 250 a tire but 350 is steep
My retail price on them would be $313 each, so I was close. They may be one of your cheaper options still. BFG and Goodyear are going to be about $40-50 per tire higher give or take
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Buckeye71
how is the road noise on the maxx vs bfg?
It is hard for me to tell which tire is louder because I am comparing different tire sizes. The ST Maxx on my personal truck is 12.5” wide and the BFG KO2 on the work trucks are 10.7” wide. My ST Maxx at 12.5” are definitely louder, but it is still just a light tire road sound and nothing really loud.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 05:12 PM
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My retail price on them would be $313 each, so I was close. They may be one of your cheaper options still. BFG and Goodyear are going to be about $40-50 per tire higher give or take
the bfg k02 is 308 a tire on tire rack do you think the falkens are better?
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 05:29 PM
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the bfg k02 is 308 a tire on tire rack do you think the falkens are better?
$308 + shipping and mounting, it will work out to a little more than the Falkens in the end.. We don't sell very many BFG's, just by request and very few request them or want to pay the premium. I can tell you that it is a much older tire, dating back to the 1980's, where the Falken is very recent.. The Kumho Road Venture AT51 has kind of a mixed tread pattern. Kind of like the BFG, but a little wider tread blocks. They will be slightly less than the Falken but only have a road hazard warranty.
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 06:03 PM
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Originally Posted by matt167
$308 + shipping and mounting, it will work out to a little more than the Falkens in the end.. We don't sell very many BFG's, just by request and very few request them or want to pay the premium. I can tell you that it is a much older tire, dating back to the 1980's, where the Falken is very recent.. The Kumho Road Venture AT51 has kind of a mixed tread pattern. Kind of like the BFG, but a little wider tread blocks. They will be slightly less than the Falken but only have a road hazard warranty.
Good to know the tire dates back to the 80's. I always check the dates on my tires. Never would I have anything that old mounted. Link how to read tire date. https://www.tireamerica.com/resource/tire-date-code
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 06:33 PM
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Good to know the tire dates back to the 80's. I always check the dates on my tires. Never would I have anything that old mounted. Link how to read tire date. https://www.tireamerica.com/resource/tire-date-code
he was saying the tire design dates to the 80s the k02 is a redesign of the old k0
 
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Old Mar 1, 2021 | 06:37 PM
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We ran Kumho AT51's on a Ranger and a F150 and they were very good tires. I've never ran them on something heavy as a SD. On the F150, they seemed a little softer than the tire they replaced, but we only put about 20k on them, but they wore well for that.
 
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