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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 11:13 AM
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Re-Keying??

My truck has been at a less than reputable shop unbeknown to me.

I'm thinking of changing the locks.....Ignition, both doors and tailgate.

I have a GREAT Pop-A-Lock guy here locally that I've used before.

Wonder how much it would cost?

Would I be better off buying a new ignition and having the doors and tailgate keyed to IT?
 
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 01:09 PM
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Here's a video on how to replace the ignition and the 2 door keys with new. I did this lock cylinder change on my Yukon with good results. Have not done it with the F350, but it looks straightforward for the do-it-yourselfer.


There is a kit on amazon that includes the tailgate lock as well:

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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 01:33 PM
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Who has any experience retrofitting an aftermarket next level type of door and ignition key system into a Super Duty without PATS ?

Some "key" words to trigger searches, ideas, and conversation...

Biometric Security
Fingerprint Scanner
Smartkey
 
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 01:38 PM
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Here's a video on how to replace the ignition and the 2 door keys with new. I did this lock cylinder change on my Yukon with good results. Have not done it with the F350, but it looks straightforward for the do-it-yourselfer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBUBHkWfBFw

There is a kit on amazon that includes the tailgate lock as well:

lock kit
Thanks!! I saw that set on Amazon as well. I think a guy could swap out all 4 in a days time no screwing around.....
 
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 01:39 PM
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@Supercab I bought this to rekey my truck.

@Y2KW57 , that is some excellent punnage sir. I present to you Russian biometric trunk opening utilizing the foot.
 
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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 02:07 PM
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I don't know about the doors and the gate but when I bought a new cylinder for mine I had to install the 'pins' and since cylinder failure was my problem, I keyed it to the old key so I didn't have to worry about the others.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 04:55 PM
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If this shop is as shady as it would have to be to go to these kinds of measures - a lock change isn’t going to help. These things are so easy to break into and steal it’s not even fun for crooks. Zero challenge at all.

One thing to note that I noticed when rekeying all of mine: the ignition and doors have a different amount of pinning “slugs”, so they won’t be the *exact* same. There’s less on the door, so there’s a little bit of figuring to be done there. All depending on which route one takes, of course.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 05:01 PM
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If this shop is as shady as it would have to be to go to these kinds of measures - a lock change isn’t going to help. These things are so easy to break into and steal it’s not even fun for crooks. Zero challenge at all.

One thing to note that I noticed when rekeying all of mine: the ignition and doors have a different amount of pinning “slugs”, so they won’t be the *exact* same. There’s less on the door, so there’s a little bit of figuring to be done there. All depending on which route one takes, of course.
Can the cylinder pins or slugs (whatever they're called) in the doors be changed by us without special tools?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 05:07 PM
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Yes the wafers can be changed but you would need a kit with new wafers and the kits cost about what new locks or a locksmith would charge to re-key.

When my main cylinder in the steering column broke I bought a new one and took the wafers out of the old one and put in the new. This way I could keep all my old keys and not have to use 2 different keys.

This won't accomplish the OP's objective.

Edit: So it's been over ten years since I dabbled in and worked with a locksmith. Thought I would go see what kits cost now. basic kits have come way down

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Pin-....c101195.m1851

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Custom-Pin-...-/130825404994

Full blown kits with all the parts you could need are still pricey.

https://www.clksupplies.com/products...f3f678af&_ss=r


Keep in mind door and ignition locks may have different wafers

 
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Old Feb 14, 2021 | 11:42 PM
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Yeah, as mentioned above me it can be done without any special tools. Just basic stuff like pliers and screwdrivers. I used it as an opportunity to install the Jimmi Jammers I had sitting around on the shelf for like two years, when I finally got around to fixing mine.

I personally haven’t ever had good luck with locksmiths, and between my DIY attitude and kind of being just a little bit of an introvert and hermit... I don’t bother trying to get help with these things. Always feels like so much hassle to me, even if it’s still work to do it yourself. Maybe I’m kind of stubborn, I never ask for help with anything in life.

I never saw a kit in all my travels that was an easy fix for the whole shebang with the doors, ignition, and tailgate, so that’s why I went the way I did. Didn’t want to do have multiple keys and I never really saw any specific to the tailgates. Sourcing parts like this is always a little trickier north of 49° anyway. I bought two individual lock tumblers off of Rock Auto for like $40 each and then did them myself. They were quality aftermarket and my ignitions have all been genuine Ford parts. Door locks are much easier than ignitions to assemble, but more difficult to pull from the truck and everything compared to the ignition. You get the hang of it though after you’ve done the ignitions a couple times, like most things.
 
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