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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 12:59 PM
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I don't find any issues with those . I ordered mine 2 years ago and there was less of a selection but I felt that the ones I got were very decent . I did want to avoid the majority that looked similar to these . Keeping in mind that the only reason there's any amount of selection is because of the jeep still using this headlamp .

even finding ones that did not have black in them was a challenge

 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 02:17 PM
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These headlight bulb buckets are a direct replacement for the old 7 inch sealed beam.

https://www.headlightrevolution.com/...7_2?quantity=1

This is the bulb bucket sold by LMC Truck. You can use any of a variety of bulbs from halogen, to xenon, LED, etc, just remember that the bulb has to be DOT approved. The advice to use a relay harness is wise as it prevents overheating the wiring harness. Halogen bulbs draw a very large current and not just the relays but the whole headlight wire harness needs to be capable of handling the current load. LMC Truck sells a headlight wire harness with relays for halogen conversion. I agree with thomc that that fly eye thingie looks ugly.

Crawl all over that Headlight Revolution site as they have a great handle on automotive lighting with lots of good information. They are also cheaper than LMC for the Vision-X headlight buckets.

 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 02:35 PM
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The link is to a sealed beam halogen .
 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by AZAV8
Halogen bulbs draw a very large current and not just the relays but the whole headlight wire harness needs to be capable of handling the current load.
Everybody says that, but take the time to pencil out Tungsten vs. Halogen, the latter is well within the design spec of the wiring & components.

The issue is actually voltage drop, in vintage or collector cars and trucks due to loose, missing or corroded grounds & connections. Any reduction in voltage at the bulb terminals causes a huge reduction in light output, and anyone installing or upgrading to Halogen bulbs in hopes of better visibility will be disappointed if there is any significant voltage drop. About 0.2 volts is the limit on the ground side, slightly higher on the positive side. Very common problem.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 05:30 PM
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Originally Posted by EBEAR
The link is to a sealed beam halogen .
The link is to the housing that fits in a 7 inch sealed beam location and will hold halogen bulbs. You buy the housing and install what ever bulbs you want. If you read the whole listing it says that what's included is 2 housings and does not list bulbs. The $65.00 price is for two housings, bulbs are extra.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Tedster9
Everybody says that, but take the time to pencil out Tungsten vs. Halogen, the latter is well within the design spec of the wiring & components.

The issue is actually voltage drop, in vintage or collector cars and trucks due to loose, missing or corroded grounds & connections. Any reduction in voltage at the bulb terminals causes a huge reduction in light output, and anyone installing or upgrading to Halogen bulbs in hopes of better visibility will be disappointed if there is any significant voltage drop. About 0.2 volts is the limit on the ground side, slightly higher on the positive side. Very common problem.
Point well taken, and I agree.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 06:51 PM
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I would be double checking . Hope your right they do look good and led bulbs seem to be better now as they never really worked very well in housings that weren't designed for them . Not a very straight forward ad . A sealed beam by definition does not have a replaceable bulb .
 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 08:57 PM
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I would be double checking . Hope your right they do look good and led bulbs seem to be better now as they never really worked very well in housings that weren't designed for them . Not a very straight forward ad . A sealed beam by definition does not have a replaceable bulb .
You are correct, in that the sealed beam is the bulb with the reflector included as the bulb. The Vision X housing is a reflector that focuses the light from the bulb to make an optimum light pattern. The halogen, xenon or LED bulb is designed to place the bulb within the housing so the light is reflected into the optimum pattern. Right now there is not an LED bulb that meets the FMVSS Standard for headlights,i.e. the DOT standard. The halogen and xenon bulbs meet the standard. The current LED bulbs cannot "legally" be used for headlights; however they can be used in fog lights.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2021 | 09:48 PM
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Certainly not trying to start an argument but I'm not sure we're on the same page here . All I'm saying is that they are advertising them a sealed beam and then saying they have replaceable bulbs . They can't be both .



 
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After extensive research I opted for these 27270C - 27270C (truck-lite.com)
I like the way they look but at $325 each I will continue to look for other options.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 06:44 AM
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[QUOTE=AZAV8;19687199]These headlight bulb buckets are a direct replacement for the old 7 inch sealed beam.

https://www.headlightrevolution.com/Vision-X-Sealed-Beam-Halogen-Headlights-7_2?quantity=

I like these and bought a set from a Jeep owner. I think a halogen bulb might work( I haven’t tried yet) but a LED will not fit in the bucket. The Jeep lights locating tabs do not line up with with the ones on my truck, but can be modified to work. The bucket doesn’t have the opening in the back for the LED bulb extend thru. To modify and open this would put the wiring and bulb out in the fender well where water and dirt be an issue.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 07:07 AM
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These are in my coupe and are the same size as the trucks .


halogen high beams

led's

the daytime running lights can be hooked to flash orange with the blinker .

I like the first picture better.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 08:12 AM
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I like the way they look but at $325 each I will continue to look for other options.
They are nice but @ $325 American ( close to $500 Canadian with shipping ) I would have to bow out . PS They do skirt around actually saying they are DOT approved .
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 08:47 AM
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Certainly not trying to start an argument but I'm not sure we're on the same page here . All I'm saying is that they are advertising them a sealed beam and then saying they have replaceable bulbs . They can't be both .


No argument Ebear, just a friendly discussion. I don't write their ad copy so, yes, it is confusing. This product is a housing that fits just like and in the place of a 7 inch sealed beam. You then add a halogen, xenon or LED bulb to provide the light. Like I posted earlier, most halogen and xenon bulbs are DOT approved while LED bulbs, to my knowledge, are not. So to be legal, DOT approved only.
 
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Old Jan 20, 2021 | 09:09 AM
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It's unfortunate but allot of the description writers don't have english as a first language or are trying to translate from a language that simply doesn't have the words . Or as in the case of the ones Charlieled posted very carefully worded info that says they are designed to conform to but does not say they are dot approved . If you are going to use halogen why not just use the sealed beams ? And as mentioned led and hid replacement bulbs are unlikely to fit without some cutting .
 
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