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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 04:22 PM
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Ive got a set of Superwinch hubs and they work good.
By the way what is a 8210? my uncle has a john deere 8640.
 
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Old Nov 5, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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Here's me with my JD2030

Had to sell it when we left Alabama

 
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Old Nov 6, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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JD 8210

Here's a JD 8210



Here's a couple of pics of a JD 8640


 

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Old Nov 7, 2003 | 07:43 AM
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I wonder which would win in a drag race.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 08:44 PM
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I've got a set of BROKEN Superwinch hubs if you want them. I replaced them with the WARNs.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 10:01 PM
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No thanks! I'll keep my Warn standards. I'll replace them with Warn Premiums IF they break.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:30 AM
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Maybe I'll get some Superwinch Hubs.

If they broke under a heavy load, they may have saved some expensive parts.

If they just wore out, then that's not good.

Were you stressing the drive train heavily, or are they excessively weak.

I'm trying to find the right balance so that my hubs will break just before something expensive breaks.

Like a shear pin on a tractor PTO... it's good to have a weak link in the system that is cheap to replace.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 01:49 AM
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That's a good point I would much rather grenade a lockout than shear an axle or u-joint.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 09:08 AM
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Re: Hubs are cheap - use them like a fuse.

Originally posted by Mark 42
I look for weak hubs. A broken hub is like a fuse in a circuit.

If I'm stressing the drivetrain to the point that standard Warn
hubs break, let them break.

It's cheaper to buy another pair of hubs (and now you have a
spare for next time!)

Hubs are cheaper than axles, diffs, etc.

Easier to replace than U-Joints, and less risk of secondary damage.
Have you ever tried Warn's hub fuses? At $15-$20 a pair, they're a lot cheaper than using your hubs themselves as fuses. I've never tried them myself. I'd like to hear from people who have though.....

Back to the original thread...... Warn Premiums get my vote. I love mine and I've only seen one of these ever fail. It was on a *cough* Chevy *cough* that someone had installed incorrectly. I can't say the same for the "other" brands.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 12:08 PM
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Heres the thing. Hub fuses are cool if you are really worried about your front end, but it doesn't take much to make them pop if you run huge tires and hit it hard. Really, if the rest of your axle is set up heavy enough to handle what you want from it the hubs will still ususally go first. I figure if your snapping shafts and joints upgrade to whatever your pockebook can afford; CTM joints and Superior shafts being the ultimate. This still leaves the hub as the weak point, even if its a top quality one like a Warn. Although there a couple of hub manufacturers that I think are pretty good, I feel through experience that Warn is the best...and if my current Warn hubs can live through what I put my truck through than thats a pretty good endorsement.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 01:20 PM
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Warn hubs certainly generate no complaints.

I had Warn hubs on my Suburban, and had no complaints other than the fact that sometimes I had to get my feet muddy to engage them.

I wish someone would make a set of good & reliable electric or pneumatic actuated locking hubs.

The auto locking hubs are great as long as they work, but it's hard to trust them with the history I have had with them.

So far the one's on my Centurion seem to be working well enough, but that just makes them a low priority for replacement rather than taking them of the to-do list altogether.

Since the truck is based on the F350 Crew Cab, it is probably built with components that can break the standard Warn hubs (maybe the premium hubs... are they any stronger?).
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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The standard warn hubs are junk.
Factory fords are better.

I made the mistake of putting normal warns on my truck. In the winter, you would need vice grips to lock them in, even then they would not always engauge.

Finaly after one broke, I repalced it with a spare superwinch my buddy had laying around, just by looking at them you would see how much better built the superwinch hub is.

Warn premiums however, are alot the best thing money can buy.

As for hub fuses, I wouldn't waste my money either. Its just not practical for a front end. Comparing it to a shear pin make no sense at all, because the the shaft a shear pin goes in always will take the same load before it breaks. U-joint strength is proportional to the cosine of its angle.

It takes far less force to break a U-joint at full lock than it does at zero angle. If you build a fuse to break before the U-joint, at full lock, then you are cheating yourself of your axle strength.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 06:54 PM
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Originally posted by red_rocket
The standard warn hubs are junk.
Factory fords are better.
Nows thats a funny statement. Who do you think makes them for Ford?

Okay, I benefit from living near Warn headquarters and have an aunt who's worked there for @ thirty years so maybe I shouldn't be TOO uppity about being privy to that bit of trivia...
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 10:29 PM
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Originally posted by proeliator
Nows thats a funny statement. Who do you think makes them for Ford?
I know, someone mentioned it on the first page. The reason why I like fords better is you can get them for cheap to free from the junkyard, instead of paying $40 for ones with black dials that say warn on them.
 
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Old Nov 10, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by red_rocket
I know, someone mentioned it on the first page.
Really? I still don't find that. Dammit, did somebody steal my thunder?
 
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