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Im trying to find out if a dually 411 or 410 rear end whichever ford made I cant recall, And front end can be taken from f350 and put in my f250 and hubs converted to single wheel and done away with dually? Will everything line up? Anything i need to know?
Only reason i was going to go through the trouble of redoing hubs is that i didnt know how hard itd be to find a 250 with 410 or 411.. the ole 7.3 im taking it off of is a parts truck on my scrap yard so they are already here.
Im trying to find out if a dually 411 or 410 rear end whichever ford made I cant recall, And front end can be taken from f350 and put in my f250 and hubs converted to single wheel and done away with dually? Will everything line up? Anything i need to know?
To get this straight in my brain.......You want to take the axles from a dually (pickup, I am ***-u-me ing) and install them under your F250. Correct?
Then you want to convert said dually conversion back to SRW. Correct?
If your F250 has the DANA 60 front axle already, then it already has the same front end as the dually; but does not have the dually spacers.
Now then too, if the dually axles are out of a cab and chassis, the frame rail are a different width, so the rear axle itself might be set up for narrower frame. I.E. WMS to WMS might be narrower.
Good clear communication is key to getting the answers you seek.
OK, you listed the year models in while I was typing
2000 F250 will have a DANA 50
2001 F350 DRW will have a DANA 60
So, the D60 migtht have a longer pinion, therefore requiring a shorter driveshaft. The to convert to SRW you will need to remove the dually spacer from the hub.
As far as the rear goes, you need to get under and do some measuring DS length, U-joint sizes, etc to see what will match up easily and what wont.
I do not understand your motivation behind doing this (if you just want 4.10 gears then have your current axles regeared). F250 7.3Ls came with 3.73 gears (at least in 99, I can't speak for other years). Some of the gas Super Duties came with 4.10 gears, however. Given the potential miles on some of the junkyard axles you will find, I strongly encourage you to have your own axles regeared - you will get new carrier and pinion bearings. EDIT: FYI I know nothing of a DRW to SRW conversion, I have never done it or researched it. If is as easy as swapping the hubs, go for it.
To get this straight in my brain.......You want to take the axles from a dually (pickup, I am ***-u-me ing) and install them under your F250. Correct?
Then you want to convert said dually conversion back to SRW. Correct?
If your F250 has the DANA 60 front axle already, then it already has the same front end as the dually; but does not have the dually spacers.
Now then too, if the dually axles are out of a cab and chassis, the frame rail are a different width, so the rear axle itself might be set up for narrower frame. I.E. WMS to WMS might be narrower.
Good clear communication is key to getting the answers you seek.
My 250 has 373's and my front end is gutted and this one is put together as well so i was wanted to use the pair. And i had no idea that they may be different width. Maybe a dumb question but not sure what wms means...? And yes i wanted to use them both bc i wanted the lower gear ratio.
My 250 has 373's and my front end is gutted and this one is put together as well so i was wanted to use the pair. And i had no idea that they may be different width. Maybe a dumb question but not sure what wms means...? And yes i wanted to use them both bc i wanted the lower gear ratio.
WMS= Wheel Mounting Surface. A critical measurement when doing axle swaps.
I do not understand your motivation behind doing this (if you just want 4.10 gears then have your current axles regeared). F250 7.3Ls came with 3.73 gears (at least in 99, I can't speak for other years). Some of the gas Super Duties came with 4.10 gears, however. Given the potential miles on some of the junkyard axles you will find, I strongly encourage you to have your own axles regeared - you will get new carrier and pinion bearings. EDIT: FYI I know nothing of a DRW to SRW conversion, I have never done it or researched it. If is as easy as swapping the hubs, go for it.
yea might end up being the best route. Just wasnt sure preciate it.
OK, you listed the year models in while I was typing
2000 F250 will have a DANA 50
2001 F350 DRW will have a DANA 60
So, the D60 migtht have a longer pinion, therefore requiring a shorter driveshaft. The to convert to SRW you will need to remove the dually spacer from the hub.
As far as the rear goes, you need to get under and do some measuring DS length, U-joint sizes, etc to see what will match up easily and what wont.
IIRC rear axles for all duallys are narrower than their SRW counterparts, but I could be mistaken. The front axles should swap easily enough, as stated above you may also need the front drive shaft and to remove the dually spacers from the hubs (on a 20 year old vehicle, this is going to be a JOB - think rust).
For the price you're looking at paying for the axles, and the work involved, there's a good chance you'd be better off financially just regearing the truck.
Some information I found with a quick google search. IDK about the validity of it, you might want to do your own measuring just to be safe.
The 99-04 DRW uses a Dana 80 rear end which, WMS-WMS is 67.5" wide. The 99-04 SRW uses a Sterling 10.5" rear end that has a WMS-WMS of 68.875" wide. All of our trucks, 99-04 uses some variation of the Dana 60 front axle either full Dana 60 or at least a Dana 60 housing with Dana 50 inards and it has a WMS-WMS of 69.25" wide. The outward differences come from the wheels that are used and there is a substantial step out on the DRW bed, but if all you want to do is run a SRW bed/wheel combo you would simply need the correct set of wheels to have a factory spec rear tract width. A 1.375" spacer with factory wheels will do that for you. Hope it helps.
These are not my measurments, but copied and pasted from another forum
01-06-2021, 06:45 AM
