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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:05 AM
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Double check wiring diagrams between the truck computer and the A9L. There are a couple different pin locations between the two. The A9L also needs 2 O2 sensor inputs, but you can split one and it should work fine. I'm not sure how the 95 truck computer is wired, so I'm not sure the exact differences between that and the A9L.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Double check wiring diagrams between the truck computer and the A9L. There are a couple different pin locations between the two. The A9L also needs 2 O2 sensor inputs, but you can split one and it should work fine. I'm not sure how the 95 truck computer is wired, so I'm not sure the exact differences between that and the A9L.
I did not connect the other o2 sensor up. could that be the problem? I have the 15 firing order and the cam is the 15 firing order. The A9L and the 95 MAF puters I have are the 13 firing order. If I change the order back to 13 will that work with the cam being it is a 15 firing order. or is my problem with the MAF. When I unplug it nothing happens.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:08 AM
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No, don't try putting the wrong inj. and plug firing order on the 15 order cam. You'll be lucky if ya get it to fire up at all, if you do that. When you pull the plug from the MAF sensor, what does it do when ya gun the throttle? It's not going to do a heck of a lot when it's idling and unplugged, but with the throttle opened up, it should give ya some problems... some pretty noticeable problems.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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I had my mechanic check my Tranny to be sure. It has 14 bolts so it is not an E40D. I guess it is an AOD after all.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:58 AM
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Now that I dont have to worry about the E40D what is next to solve the problem?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 11:37 AM
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I don't know for sure the exact differences between a 95 MAF truck computer and the mustang computer. If you can get a wiring diagram for a 95 truck, compare it with a 1990 Mustang computer wiring . The A9L uses an oxygen sensor in both exhaust headers on mustangs, so you need to have an input to both pins on the computer. I split the one wire from the truck and ran it to both pins on the computer.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 02:21 PM
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You sure the electronics on the MAF are okay? You should be able to run tests to check it out.

When I used to unplug a MAF on a cammed vehicle the idle would stumble before I plugged it in.

Also remember the A9L is the T5 Mustang computer NOT the AOD one. Sell that A9L and get a C3W1, A3M1, A9P, etc.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 03:41 PM
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if you want to sell the 95 maf e4od computer email me ill buy it .what are the numbers on it?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 07:49 PM
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I would not be to conserned about the firing order for the injectors. i talked to Ford motorsports about firing orders of the injectors because i installed a 89 mustang mass air EFi system on my 1970 302 they told me the switching the order made hardly any difference its only a small amount of efficency, but not noticable and i have had no problems with not changing the injector order for the last 2 years.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 08:43 PM
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I installed an A9L (89 mustang computer) in my 87 F150 recently. I got injectors 1 and 2 plugged in backwards and had a very noticeable hesitation. It will run if they aren't right, yes, but it won't run as well as it can run.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:19 PM
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the ford motorsports guy told me to think about how many times a second a injector fires and about duty cycle. hell the batch fire works fine and its blasting fuel and doesnt know when the valve is going to open.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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Yes, but remember if the injectors are out of sequence, some cylinders may wait longer to get fuel than others and it will run rough. Batch fire fires 4 injectors that are sequential in the firing order, but if you fire 2 out of sequence, it's not quite the same result. I got two plugged up backwards, and I could tell a difference when I switched the wiring to the correct injector. It's much less noticeable at upper rpm's because like you said, the injectors are firing many times per second, but at idle it could cause a slight stumble or miss.
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Hit Man X
You sure the electronics on the MAF are okay? You should be able to run tests to check it out.

When I used to unplug a MAF on a cammed vehicle the idle would stumble before I plugged it in.

Also remember the A9L is the T5 Mustang computer NOT the AOD one. Sell that A9L and get a C3W1, A3M1, A9P, etc.
HOw can I test the MAF? So if I get the A9P puter will that fix the skipping problem. I have the injectors wired for the 15 order and the firing still set on the 15 order. Also would the injectors not being matched to the MAF cause the problem I am having? HOw do I tell what injectors i have?
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Originally posted by jesse460
if you want to sell the 95 maf e4od computer email me ill buy it .what are the numbers on it?
F4TF-12A650-BBC
 
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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The MAF has no clue what the firing order is of either plugs or the injectors, so you don't have to worry about that. You can tell what what flow injectors you have by the color of them: gray=14lbs/hr, orange=19lbs/hr, blue-24lbs/hr, red=30lbs/hr... there's a few others, but you'd better not have them or something funky happened.
 
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