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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 09:00 PM
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rumor i was told from a ford KTP person is 2022 will be new interior no truck redesign, 2023 will be new body. I am not an insider or have any first hand knowledge this came from a KTP worker. ill probably look at getting a 2022 when the 2023 comes out and get rid of my 19
If the new dashboard design is going to be modeled after the 2021 F-150 then I need to order as quick as I am able. The F-150 reminds me of a Buick. I like the 2021 Super Duty just fine.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by KU4OJ
If the new dashboard design is going to be modeled after the 2021 F-150 then I need to order as quick as I am able. The F-150 reminds me of a Buick. I like the 2021 Super Duty just fine.

I would imagine since theres common cabs, the 2021 f150 interior will make its way to the 2022 SD. Like i said im not a person in the know, but i have friends at KTP and this is what was told to me.
 
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Old Dec 28, 2020 | 10:47 PM
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Pic from automotive news fall 2019 I saved: SD redesign 2023. So MY 2023, actually 22. Sounds far away but only @ 18 months +/-.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 08:15 AM
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To me, it would be mighty strange to install the new F-150 interior for MY22 and then redesign the exterior for MY23. The F-150 saw refreshed exterior styling for MY21 despite being the same truck underneath; same true for the MY19 RAM HD; it got refreshed styling along with the new interior despite being the same truck underneath.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 08:20 AM
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Will get challenged on "same truck underneath" IMHO. Wasnt clean sheet redesign, but significant changes across the board.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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I won’t be surprised if they change the interior for 22. GM is updating there interior so Ford will not want to get behind in that race. They’ve been running the same interior since 17 and it would not be hard for them to tweak the 150 interior to make it slightly different for the superduty interior.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by PowerKid
Will get challenged on "same truck underneath" IMHO. Wasnt clean sheet redesign, but significant changes across the board.
Same frame, suspension, cab, etc. Some suspension "tuning," a new rear axle with the max tow, and different sheetmetal designs, but its the same truck. More different looking than say a 2019 vs 2020 Super Duty, but the same. Biggest change was the interior, hybrid offering, power upgrades on some engines.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 09:11 AM
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I won’t be surprised if they change the interior for 22. GM is updating there interior so Ford will not want to get behind in that race. They’ve been running the same interior since 17 and it would not be hard for them to tweak the 150 interior to make it slightly different for the superduty interior.
This same interior was first seen by the customer back in late 2014, when the aluminum F-150 arrived. Its getting pretty long in tooth now. Perhaps Ford wants speed things up, but the aluminum F-150 had its new interior for two full model years before the Super Duty got it. That would be inline with the Super Duty getting a redesign (or refresh) and the new interior in 2023.

GM will likely update its half ton interior first, and then the HD will get it a year or so later.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 09:13 AM
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Yah I get all that. Some things u didn't mention for example is wider track. I get bored with the argument. To each his own. Yes its the same underneath. Ok. Guys repeatedly argued this with the '09 'update' too. We'll have to agree to disagree. 👍
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 09:22 AM
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Yah I get all that. Some things u didn't mention for example is wider track. I get bored with the argument. To each his own. Yes its the same underneath. Ok. Guys repeatedly argued this with the '09 'update' too. We'll have to agree to disagree. 👍
I'd say the line is blurring between full redesign and refresh. For example, the 2017 Super Duty was truly a full redesign. Nothing from the 2016 Super Duty was carried over, aside from the transmission and front axles.

To me, a completely new frame signifies a full redesign. The 2015 F-150 was a full redesign compared to the 2014 truck, despite some carryover drivetrain items, and even basically the same front suspension.

Full redesigns are very expensive, and if it isn't broken, there is no reason to spend money and fix it. I have no problem with Ford using the same cab as the 2015 truck. It had class leading crew cab space back then, and only in 2019 have RAM and GM matched it. The frame has always supported class leading towing...why change it? But because of that point, the frame being the same, it means the essential architecture of the front clip, cab, and bed will remain the same. And to me, that's not a full redesign. RAM raised the bar with their 2019 half ton truck. GM just fixed things that weren't as good with their previous truck, like the steering wheel not being centered and the rear crew cab being small. Ford needed a new interior, and they got it. From what I can see, I love the 2021 F-150. But my favorite F-150 generation was probably the 2011-2014 trucks. My favorite Super Duty was the 2011-2016 trucks.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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I will be sad if I missed out on the interior redesign by 6 to 8 months. The 12 inch screen is cool, but not too big of a deal, the styling changes are meh. To me the big deal is having sync 4 and the ability to do apple carplay/android auto over bluetooth. That is huge, especially for from a "future proofing" perspective for people who keep their vehicles for many years like I do. I hope that I'm able to retrofit sync 4 into my 2021 down the road.

I would almost cancel my order but I have a road trip planned in April that I wouldn't miss for the world. The memories from that trip will far outweigh any interior changes for me. If covid keeps me from going to national parks in the spring AND I miss out on sync 4 I will be very bitter haha.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 04:39 PM
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I would think with ‘22 production starting in June, it is to get ahead of the GM/RAM. That means that the interior change will more than likely be in MY ‘22. IMO
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 07:48 PM
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IMO it's odd to change the interior MY22 and change the exterior MY23
 
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Old Dec 29, 2020 | 08:02 PM
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IMO it's odd to change the interior MY22 and change the exterior MY23
Agree, though at the same time Ram trucks are the competition. They have had a much nicer interior for a while now. Figure it could go either way based on compete, and potential supply chain savings.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2020 | 02:12 AM
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Agree, though at the same time Ram trucks are the competition. They have had a much nicer interior for a while now. Figure it could go either way based on compete, and potential supply chain savings.
You can argue that on the lower end trims the Ram's are light years ahead of everyone else. You can get a Big Horn in a regular cab with every bell and whistle except leather I think. Heated seats, moveable pedals, heated wheel, even LED headlights. I actually like the Ford better except I wish I could get heated seats and the LED's on a regular cab XLT.
 
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