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I kinda hesitate to get involved in this conversation for some reason. I will say I have used a riffraff 4x4 billet wheel in both mine and my dads trucks and were very happy with their performance.

Originally Posted by Colorado350
Y’all are missing the major points of the thread:
1) The E99 turbo provided excellent performance on one truck but didn’t perform as well on an almost identical truck. WHY?
This was a huge part of the reasoning behind why I started working on the turbo matrix. Hopefully by looking at a chart with lots of the variables broken down in an easy to compare fashion we can start to see some trends in what makes things work well in different situations.

Originally Posted by Colorado350
2)Our trucks are almost identical, that doesn’t mean exactly identical. Someone with more time on their hands, can go back six months and count up the number of times we have all stated; every truck runs different in someway with the same setup. Sous mentioned his MST didn’t work great for him on his truck but Byron states a MST is working great...
I have one of these “different trucks” that didn’t suit well to a combo that works very well for most people.

Originally Posted by Colorado350
The E99 turbo is often shunned because it’s “smaller” than the L99...maybe the size isn’t an issue after all, BUT maybe it’s more of an issue of AIR DENSITY...not just air FLOW!
Agreed.

Originally Posted by Colorado350
Great air flow is completely different at 600’ of elevation than at 10,000’ because of AIR DENSITY aka ambient air pressure.
Agree again

Originally Posted by Colorado350
5) AIR FLOW is completely different than AIR DENSITY. PER GARRETT’s TURBOCHARGING at ELEVATION:
Contrary to belief, the higher you are in elevation the less atmospheric pressure you experience. That said, oxygen levels at any set volume (a breath of air, or an engine cycle) at sea level contain more oxygen then the same (breath of air, or an engine cycle) at a higher elevation. The chart below shows how pressure changes with elevation. The higher the ambient pressure (psia), the more oxygen it contains.
Yep, agreed and a good chart to help visualize it. It’s all about those beautiful little oxygen molecules and how many of them we can get into a combustion cycle.

Originally Posted by Colorado350
IIRC... RacingJason has a whole thread reporting on the AIS flow compared to other filters...What elevation are these tests being done at? How would those results change if repeated at 7000-9000’ of elevation?? Air density makes a huge difference...
Good point, I need to add my elevation to the information on the chart. I’m at around 680’ right now according to my phone.
You are correct, I do not know how the elevation effects the AIS.
If the info from your linked page holds true it would mean you have to move A LOT more air to make your truck work at elevation.
But... the air is also thinner, so does that mean it will actually flow through the filter easier? Oh the questions keep building. Science is hard.

Originally Posted by Colorado350
No, but the performance of those parts change significantly at elevation...the absolute constant variable here is air density aka ambient pressure.
This is easily seen at the drag strip. You will pick up considerable ET once the hot summer day turns into cool night.

Originally Posted by Colorado350
Informative read. Shows the extra boost required to make up for the lack of oxygen in the less dense air pretty well.

Originally Posted by brokestroke
Difference in Wastegate actuators?
This is a very valid point.
 
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