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Old Dec 13, 2020 | 01:38 PM
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I ran 91 no ethanol in the summer while towing my camper. Once the camper was put away, its been 87 Octane 10% ethanol. I do get about 10% better MPG with 91 Octane. But it costs 15-17% more, so not making back the difference. I did notice a very slight performance advantage to 91 octane in the heat of summer. In winter I use the remote start often sold, I'd rather burn the cheaper gas since 87 and 91 both get 0 MPG while idling in the driveway.
I do the same thing when not towing I run 87 octane and when we tow I switch to 91 octane. I do see about a .5-1.0 mpg increase with 91 and the engine does feel like its at 100% with 91 octane. We see less downshifts shifts and slightly longer range with the 91 when towing.
 
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Old Dec 13, 2020 | 04:00 PM
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Wow, that's cheap. Here in the mid-atlantic, E Free gas is ~70-80 cents more per gallon over regular. Note that it is typically 90 octane too.

https://www.pure-gas.org/
Im lucky. There’s a local gas station here selling all non ethanol. 85 is 2.49. 87 is 2.59. 91 is 2.89. E at the other station is 2.39
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Old Dec 13, 2020 | 04:24 PM
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Filled up with 87 this am, $1.69 per gal.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 08:23 AM
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I was using E85 as an example for the test I did in wifes Jeep. May wanna read closer. The 10-15% ethanol DOES affect mileage. I have proved it several times. Also, ethanol does reduce engine life. That has been proven too. So, put in what ya want. It's your rig....
Ethanol produces 70% as much energy by volume as gasoline does, which means that you need to burn more ethanol to create the same energy, to go the same distance. If you just want to go as far as you can on a tank of fuel, no brainer to just use a non-ethanol blend gasoline. The numbers to pay attention to are miles per dollar in comparison between gasoline and ethanol. If you get 14 MPG from a tank of E85 and 20 MPG from a tank of non ethanol 87 octane, it might seem like the 87 is the better deal. But if ethanol is $1.30 a gallon (10.76 miles per dollar) and 87 octane is $2 (10 miles per dollar), then E85 is the better deal, but obviously you'll make more stops for fuel, and not every station carries E85.

Any of the issues I have ever seen that were related to ethanol fuel were due to running E85 in a vehicle that had no content sensor, a fuel system not made to withstand the characteristics of ethanol, and no way to compensate the extra fuel that was needed to not suffer from a constant lean condition.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 01:57 PM
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For those that like to buy a specific brand of gasoline, it'd pretty much the same gasoline not matter where you get it. The exception is if a station or brand adds their 11 herbs and spices. But the base gasoline is the same.

https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/...ng%20stations.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MKrenn
Im lucky. There’s a local gas station here selling all non ethanol. 85 is 2.49. 87 is 2.59. 91 is 2.89. E at the other station is 2.39
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I had to make a 55 mile each way trip to pick up a seat for my Explorer today. Gas is somewhat cheaper in that area compared to home so after reading this thread I said what the heck. I filled up with 93 octane for $2.45/gallon.
Regular was $2.05 and mid grade 89 was $2.25. My home area is getting $2.15 at the cheapest places.
I'll keep half an eye on the truck's mileage meter just for grins. I didn't buy an F 250 to be a mileage machine but I'm curious if the higher octane will bump it up any.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 02:53 PM
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Ethanol produces 70% as much energy by volume as gasoline does, which means that you need to burn more ethanol to create the same energy, to go the same distance. If you just want to go as far as you can on a tank of fuel, no brainer to just use a non-ethanol blend gasoline. The numbers to pay attention to are miles per dollar in comparison between gasoline and ethanol. If you get 14 MPG from a tank of E85 and 20 MPG from a tank of non ethanol 87 octane, it might seem like the 87 is the better deal. But if ethanol is $1.30 a gallon (10.76 miles per dollar) and 87 octane is $2 (10 miles per dollar), then E85 is the better deal, but obviously you'll make more stops for fuel, and not every station carries E85.

Any of the issues I have ever seen that were related to ethanol fuel were due to running E85 in a vehicle that had no content sensor, a fuel system not made to withstand the characteristics of ethanol, and no way to compensate the extra fuel that was needed to not suffer from a constant lean condition.

Well said. Thanks
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 09:18 PM
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What octane should I use in my 6.7L?
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 09:19 PM
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What octane should I use in my 6.7L?
2%.

Diesels are so much better they can probably run on milk.
 
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Old Dec 14, 2020 | 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Kenny Bania
2%.

Diesels are so much better they can probably run on milk.
I like 2% too... perfect 👌
 
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 08:58 AM
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Old Dec 15, 2020 | 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Ding126
I get the best mileage running Chevron fuel, I originally ran 87 oct but have been running premium for the last 1k miles...I top off after each trip so I dont get the 150.00 + fill up. Here in the communist state of Kaliforistan... unleaded at Chevron can be 3.35-3.79 per gallon depending on area.
May try running mid grade 89 Oct....to see if there is a difference.

I can fill my truck up with 87 Oct for free through my company but choose to run the higher Octane and pay out of pocket. Eventually I'll go back to free
An option is to mix “market” price 91 1:1 with “free” 87 and make your own low-price 89.

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