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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 10:23 AM
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Quick question on a 2” level

I’ve read most of the posts that I can find relative to what I’m about to ask. Looking for more of a straight answer from someone that has jus a 2” level on 37s. Do I 100% need the track bar relocation bracket with just a 2”? I notice some kits have it some don’t. Also do I 100% need the caster shims or will I be fine with just setting front toe? The bds kit which comes with it all is on back order but my rims and tires have shipped. So I was thinking of just putting the 2” spacers up front and ordering shocks and calling it a day. 🤷‍♂️
 
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Originally Posted by 20fordmastertech18
I’ve read most of the posts that I can find relative to what I’m about to ask. Looking for more of a straight answer from someone that has jus a 2” level on 37s. Do I 100% need the track bar relocation bracket with just a 2”? I notice some kits have it some don’t. Also do I 100% need the caster shims or will I be fine with just setting front toe? The bds kit which comes with it all is on back order but my rims and tires have shipped. So I was thinking of just putting the 2” spacers up front and ordering shocks and calling it a day. 🤷‍♂️
All the associated parts can be sourced separate if need be. That would be my suggestion. I don't have a lift yet, but plan to and have been looking into various options. Some of the 2"+ lifts that aren't all-inclusive will still recommend a new trackbar or relocation bracket. I
think that you could get by without that stuff temporarily, to get things aligned would eventually require those parts though.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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You need some way of re-centering the front axle after the lift. This means you need a track bar drop bracket and/or adjustable track bar. The caster shims make a big difference in keeping the truck in a straight line. The caster angle on a stock truck is very low, made even worse after lifting it. Adding the caster shims will make a noticeable improvement, and will strongly reduce the likelihood of suffering from death wobble after the lift.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by GNR22
You need some way of re-centering the front axle after the lift. This means you need a track bar drop bracket and/or adjustable track bar. The caster shims make a big difference in keeping the truck in a straight line. The caster angle on a stock truck is very low, made even worse after lifting it. Adding the caster shims will make a noticeable improvement, and will strongly reduce the likelihood of suffering from death wobble after the lift.
Thanks for the reply! I’ll try and piece part everything together since I can’t get the bds kit. I kinda already new the answer I guess 😂. Just dying to get these tires on.
 
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Old Dec 8, 2020 | 11:22 PM
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There’s definitely a cheap way and a expensive way to go about it. I pieced all my stuff together and bought it little by little. My truck came with a coil spacer lift which I was not happy with, and no trackbar relocation bracket. So I started with a PMF trackbar (since my OEM was worn out and my axle wasn’t centered), then Carli caster bushings, then Kelderman dual SS setup, Fox 2.0 shocks the proper length to get rid of the shock spacer, PMF draglink, and finally Icon 2.5” coils. Extremely happy with how the truck rides now. Smooth as glass and sits perfectly level. Me personally, I’m not a fan of the cheapo kits that use a relocation bracket for the trackbar, coil spacers, shock extensions, but that’s just me.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 12:04 AM
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There is a lot of info but not enough info...lol. I just installed a Bilstein coil leveling kit which came with new coils and proper length shocks. I also installed a BDS track bar relocation bracket. After the install my steering wheel was off center by about a quarter turn. That was not discussed in any of the youtube videos that I watched about leveling kits. Came here and figured out how to straighten out the steering wheel. To be 100% honest I have no idea if my axle is centered or not. It seems like there are a ton of videos and write ups that give you just enough info to buy a product but not enough to know exactly what you need to do it right.

Im sure Ill end up buying a couple additional items before Im done.
 
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Originally Posted by MDK993
There is a lot of info but not enough info...lol. I just installed a Bilstein coil leveling kit which came with new coils and proper length shocks. I also installed a BDS track bar relocation bracket. After the install my steering wheel was off center by about a quarter turn. That was not discussed in any of the youtube videos that I watched about leveling kits. Came here and figured out how to straighten out the steering wheel. To be 100% honest I have no idea if my axle is centered or not. It seems like there are a ton of videos and write ups that give you just enough info to buy a product but not enough to know exactly what you need to do it right.

Im sure Ill end up buying a couple additional items before Im done.
is the track bar bracket forms bds adjustable? It appears the holes are slotted for some movement but I can’t seem to find that info in anyone’s item description of the product.
 
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Originally Posted by 20fordmastertech18
is the track bar bracket forms bds adjustable? It appears the holes are slotted for some movement but I can’t seem to find that info in anyone’s item description of the product.
The bracket itself is not adjustable but the washer that comes and fits into the slot is offset to move the bar to the drivers side or passenger side based on how much lift.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 05:36 PM
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Hopefully this works.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...K9rHX6rmzoPTyL
 
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Another vote for caster shims are needed with a 2 inch spacer level. My truck road way to rough until I added the shims. Proper length shocks helped but the shims brought it back to a stock feel. I only have 35 inch tires.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
The link wont open for me
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by MDK993
The link wont open for me
It was supposed to be the BDS bracket install instructions PDF. I downloaded it but wasn't sure how to post it. I just thought it might help the OP. Oh well, its easily found via Google search.

Before you mentioned it and I looked at the instructions, I wasn't aware of that small adjustment that could be made.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 4wd6.7L
It was supposed to be the BDS bracket install instructions PDF. I downloaded it but wasn't sure how to post it. I just thought it might help the OP. Oh well, its easily found via Google search.

Before you mentioned it and I looked at the instructions, I wasn't aware of that small adjustment that could be made.
I can open the link thanks guys. I got the bds bracket coming with 2” spacers and the carli caster shims with some bilsteins. see how she flies when it all gets here.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2020 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by 20fordmastertech18
I can open the link thanks guys. I got the bds bracket coming with 2” spacers and the carli caster shims with some bilsteins. see how she flies when it all gets here.
How do the caster shims work?
 
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Originally Posted by MDK993
How do the caster shims work?
from what I gather through reading the instructions they come pre positioned. You remove the old slug from your upper ball joint and install these. You set them in a specific position and put everything back together. They give you the degree of caster you lose lifting the front end plus one additional degree of caster. Then you just have to adjust your drag link to center the steering wheel. (Long bar from gear box to the right side knuckle. )
 
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