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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 06:01 PM
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Why does the 2005 Navigator needs 91 octane and the F 150 with exactly the same engine "only" 87 octane??

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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 07:17 PM
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How do we know it's "exactly" the same engine? I'm not doubting you, but I have no idea if compression is identical. The ignition timing curve may be different as well, that alone could account for that.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 10:29 PM
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Probably ECU timing difference. I thought Navigator ran the 4 valve? Not sure when or if they ditched it.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2020 | 10:31 PM
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Yes they were in fact the same engine when they went to the 3v 5.4. The 91 octane recommendation carried over from the old 4v for no particular reason.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2020 | 03:22 AM
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IMHO in modern engines is no metter, you can use 87 or 91, ECU use knocking sensor and change ignition time. On higher octane you can have better performance only when your ECU is tuned to this gasoline. I use 98 octane gasoline on my 2V 4,6 Expy. I use it because it's premium gas here ( cleaner and better for injection system ) but it nothing change compare to regular 95 octane fuel, car run the same.

the change of octane is felt in old carburetor engines where the ECU did not modify the engine operation.

but if you go to some tuner to change and tune up ECU map, you can use other octane than is in your car spec and your ECU will go better on this.
 
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