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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 03:57 AM
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e150 idling problem

Hi there,

I have a problem with my 302 every time i stop the van, having the brakes applied and leave the transmission in D. What it does is:
- the idle gets a bit too low
- the oil pressure gauge starts jumping around
- sometimes it seems like the van wants to jump forward
- it used to die off sometimes, but i changed the idle air control valve the other day, and i think that fixed it (but the issues above are still there)

When i put it in neutral, the idling is fine.
It only does this when it's hot

anyone have any ideas?
regards. Willem
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 08:05 AM
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Check for fault codes ( KOEO test). It may or may not have active or stored fault codes but that is the place to start.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 11:28 AM
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well i reset the memory, had the engine warm up and read the codes. It gave me a 332, which is weird since i recently also replaced the EGR valve with a new one
 
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Old Nov 8, 2020 | 07:05 PM
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332 can also mean vacuum leak, the old lines commonly crack. Sometimes you have to look closely.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by jackietreehorn
332 can also mean vacuum leak, the old lines commonly crack. Sometimes you have to look closely.
not looking forward to that. with this van nearly everything is almost impossible to reach in there
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 07:04 AM
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Not too bad if you remove the doghouse but that isn’t fun either. I never liked working on full size vans when I was working at the dealer.
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 11:02 AM
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I just finished checking the vacuum lines, they all seem to be fine. I especially had a good look at the green one that goes from the back of the engine to the top of the EGR valve, thats also solid.
When i switch off the engine i do hear a soft gurgling noise, is that normal?
 
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Old Nov 9, 2020 | 11:06 AM
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Also, i noticed a little thing that looks like a solenoid or something, its like a cylinder of 3 inches tall mounted to the throttle body. It has a rubber line that goes into the throttle body, between the two mounting points for the air intake hoses that go to the air cleaner. What is that thing for?
 
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 10:41 AM
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Well i can imagine i'm starting to sound a bit random at this point, so i decided to make a few videos
Today i also checked the EGR valve positioning sensor, it gets roughly 4 Volts and gives about 4 kOhms. I guess that's ok too.

Here arethe video's, it's probably a bit too dark, but maybe you can hear the idle going up and down, and the car bogging when in Drive





Oh, and the oil pressure is jumping in the wrong direction because i replaced the sensor for one used for a warning light


Any ideas would be much appreciated!!!
 
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Old Nov 10, 2020 | 11:26 AM
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I take it the parts guy gave you the wrong part. There is a difference

Is this the part you are describing?





 
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Yep, that's exactly it. What is it for, and how does it work?
 
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Here is one description of the system

https://dannysengineportal.com/evapo...ction-failure/
 
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thanks! i think i might check this valve for air leaks tomorrow
 
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Old Nov 11, 2020 | 03:56 AM
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I did some research and i think i have another possible cause: Could it be slack in the timing chain? When i start the engine cold i hear some loud knocking in the front (thought it was the water pump). At cold idle it makes some random metallic noises that go away when the engine warms up. Sometimes its very difficult to start for no apparent reason.
 
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Miles? A way to check timing chain, is remove distributor cap, watch the rotary button, mark the crank, have someone, try to rotate crank slowly, clockwise, and when you see the rotary button move, stop, note where mark on crank is, then rotate crank, counter clockwise, slowly, when you see rotary button move, stop, note where mark is on crank, again, I think its, any more than 10-15 degree of movement, before rotary button moves, means timing chain needs, replacing.
 
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