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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 03:17 AM
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2004 6.0 ac compressor

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so I replaced my ac compressor today, what a pain in the ***. So my ac compressor came loaded with 3 oz oil and I added another 6. My question is I put the oil in both ports directly on the compressor. I realize now this was wrong, what are my options? Do I have to pull that beast out again and drain or am I ok? If I have to drain can I do it while the compressor is still installed? Hoping for the later as it’s only a few bolts but wow they are tough, time consuming and painful. Thanks in advance
 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 04:59 AM
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I can't say for sure as refrigeration is not my thing. BUT, Too much oil might just slug the compressor.
One option would be to do a flush of other components that equal to the amount you added.

You will find in the adding oil PDF how they recomend that you add oil to the system.

Ford has a list of what each of the system components and how much oil you add when you replace or flush them.
I think I have the list for your year.

Okay I thought I had the 2004 data handy and I don't
I do have the 2003 and 2005 that you can look at. The first PDF will be for the 2003 model year.
The second PDF will be for the 2005 model year. I added 2005 to the file name to make it easy for you to tell.

I do have the PDFs on a disk I can get at this weekend if you want to wait.

Also did you replace the orifice tube and the receiver/drier? If you did a compressor then you should also be doing
those two items also. If you had a failed compressor then you really should do that and do a flush of all the rest of the system.

Here is a note I found in the PDFs :
Install a new suction accumulator (if equipped) or receiver/drier (if equipped) in any vehicle being serviced for an internal A/C compressor or desiccant failure.

So if either of these two things did not happen then you don't have to replace the receiver/drier.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 07:08 AM
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Ac compressor

I’m doing the oriface and dryer tomorrow. If I just unplug the ac compressor I should be able to drive it in for a flush and refill yes? My compressor did seize up and changing it was a pain in the *** don’t want to have to do it twice.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 08:04 AM
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Another refrigeration non-expert here. In the past year I have replaced the compressors on a Jeep xj and my wife's Tacoma. In each instance, the instructions that came with the compressor said to remove( pour out) the oil that is shipped with the compressor. An unopened bottle of compressor oil was provided to fill the oil depending on your vehicle requirements. My assumption is that the oil shipped with the unit is to keep the insides coated while waiting on the shelf- I could be wrong. Yahico has you covered on the other stuff. Of course your instructions could differ from my vendor. I am curious.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 10:20 AM
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I would not bother to remove, if the oil amount is correct.
I would leave it for it to settle in, maybe a day or two.
Also, do not expose it to air (moisture for too long) , that is bad.

There are oil everywhere in that system. Including input, output ports, so you are concerned about the amount in the out port.

But that is my opinion. People put a refrigerator sideways, and they are told to leave it stand up for a day. That is if gravity can do its job.
For this truck, I don't know if the path would clear itself.

If you can engage the clutch and rotate by hand in the correct direction, it may work also. Basically prevent the liquid to break the pump.

Think again, oil will circulate back to the input. So will it choke anywhere along the path, or will it prevent evacuation (you have access to a vac pump, do you?).
I would evac many times, leave hours in between.
 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 02:16 PM
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Ok all installed and will not start

She wants to start, it’s throwing a p0678 code? Could I have blown a glow plug trying to jump it when I was stuck? Which relay or fuse would that be? Wouldn’t it still start with one bad glow plug? Any help, I know she’s close
 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 02:24 PM
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Can you list start symptoms? Crank fast no start?
What is the battery voltage? Do you have monitors? If so, what is HPOP psi?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 01:29 AM
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Aloha all

I don’t have a good scan tool just a cheap Bosch. It is cranking fast and saying glow plug 8 circuit. I changed ac compressor, orifice, dryer. Also installed new glow plug control bar. (I’m sure that’s not the right name) batteries are new but only at 11.4 volt charge, so slow charging over night. Also have the motor heater plugged in. Have checked all fuses and relays all getting power and open circuits. If it doesn’t start in the morning I will check my glow plugs. Should still start even if 8 is bad? Not really sure if anything was damaged when I jumped the low pressure switch last week as my ac started blowing hot and I wanted to see if the ac clutch would engage. Immediately After that it was a no start. I jumped it off my Tacoma after 20 minutes of charging and it started right up. Let it run for 30 minutes, shut off and it started in the morning no problem. Drove to work and after work no start. Tried to jump off another Tacoma with no luck, just very sluggish as the Ac compressor seized up. Towed it home and did the repairs and you know the rest. Any ideas on what else it could be would be helpful. Also does anyone know the name of the spark plug looking thing right above the glow plug relay? That thing keeps staring me in the face, could that have something to do with this?

 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 04:46 AM
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You need to watch the System voltage when cranking. Hopefully your scan tool can do that. Also watch engine rpms. It takes a minimum of 150 cranking rpms to start.

That sensor you are asking about is the ICP sensor (Injection Control Pressure Sensor).

You can damage your Fuel Injection Control Module (FICM) if you continually try starting with low system voltage.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 11:28 AM
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Cranking is 220, still no start.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Cheffy
Cranking is 220, still no start.
If a new battery is measured 11.4 volt, regardless if it's not yet charged, I would return it in a hurry. Once a battery goes down to certain level, it's pretty much junk. As Mark said, it may ruin your FICM.
But I am no expert.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 04:25 PM
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Is the 11.4 volts while resting or cranking?
if you get 220 rpm from resting 11.4 volt batteries, something isn’t right.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 06:06 PM
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No that’s the cranking, batteries were 12.5 after slow charge.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 06:10 PM
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12.5 volts isn't great - about 80% if they are wet cell. Worse if they are maintenance free (linking to Jacks picture):

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.for...2df9be790b.png

Also might be worse if you didn't put a slight load on them after the charging to get rid of the "surface charge".
 
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Old Oct 13, 2020 | 12:40 AM
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Help please!
So it started 3 weeks ago ac went hot. Compressor not engaging, jumped the low ac switch. Can’t start truck. Jump truck next day, long charge time but starts. Run 30 minutes. Stop. Work next day no problem. Go to leave work, read won’t start. Charge off a friend 30 minutes no start. I did try to turn it over too many times. Leave with a friend. Next day 2 new batteries, no start. ****! Tow home, ac compressor fried! Change, massive bitch. 3 bolts no space 8 hours, done. New serpentine belt, orafus, dryer. Didn’t charge because want to take in for flush but ac off so....ok. Put all back together, no start. Batteries at 13.5 v, no start. Lots of crank but that’s all. Throwing glow plug 8 circuit code, but that wasn’t there when this all started. Keep in Mind it was fine until I jumped the low pressure ac switch. All relays and fuses good, checked with battery and ohm meter. Did to much cranking fry something? Did something short out with the jump? If so where should I look? I’m not a mechanic, have no experience tracing stuff like this any help would be appreciated greatly.
 
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