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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 04:57 AM
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okay but why does it work fine when your turning the steering wheel it only acts funky when you driving straight and hit the brakes?
Try hitting the brakes while turning the steering wheel. Do this at low speed of course. is it working okay in this scenario?
 
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 06:17 AM
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You can try to do a ABS system bleed two or three times and that might fix it. It sounds like air is trapped in brake lines. You will have to use a laptop and scantool software like FORScan.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 05:50 PM
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Mine did the same thing and it ended up being the power steering pump. Good luck
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 06:32 AM
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The best way to refill the PS system after hose, pump, steering gear, etc replacement is:

Fill reservoir.

Start engine for 5 seconds and shut it off.

Refill Reservoir.

Repeat ^^^^ until reservoir stays full.

Then, turn steering wheel 1/8 turn and refill reservoir.

Continue ^^^^^ until reservoir stays full with lock to lock turns.


Not doing this pumps aerated fluid through the system and is damn near impossible to get out.


Are you SURE the hoses got hooked up to the right places??

It sounds like the hoses may be reversed??
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
The best way to refill the PS system after hose, pump, steering gear, etc replacement is:

Fill reservoir.

Start engine for 5 seconds and shut it off.

Refill Reservoir.

Repeat ^^^^ until reservoir stays full.

Then, turn steering wheel 1/8 turn and refill reservoir.

Continue ^^^^^ until reservoir stays full with lock to lock turns.


Not doing this pumps aerated fluid through the system and is damn near impossible to get out.
@SkySkiJason When turning the wheel 1/8 turn and then lock to lock turns, is this with the front end on jack stands with the wheels/tires off the ground?
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 08:56 AM
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@SkySkiJason When turning the wheel 1/8 turn and then lock to lock turns, is this with the front end on jack stands with the wheels/tires off the ground?
It makes it a lot easier to turn!!!

But, I don’t think it’s required.

I forgot to add pressing the brake pedal after the steering stuff above.

The idea is to never let the reservoir run dry and create that frothy stuff. That entrained air is hard to separate.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
It makes it a lot easier to turn!!!

But, I don’t think it’s required.

I forgot to add pressing the brake pedal after the steering stuff above.

The idea is to never let the reservoir run dry and create that frothy stuff. That entrained air is hard to separate.
Thank you sir for the clarification. I have taken notes and archived them in my "blue top steering gear replacement project" folder.
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Try hitting the brakes while turning the steering wheel. Do this at low speed of course. is it working okay in this scenario?
yes when turn the brakes work perfect that’s what has me confused
 
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Old Sep 27, 2020 | 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
The best way to refill the PS system after hose, pump, steering gear, etc replacement is:

Fill reservoir.

Start engine for 5 seconds and shut it off.

Refill Reservoir.

Repeat ^^^^ until reservoir stays full.

Then, turn steering wheel 1/8 turn and refill reservoir.

Continue ^^^^^ until reservoir stays full with lock to lock turns.


Not doing this pumps aerated fluid through the system and is damn near impossible to get out.


Are you SURE the hoses got hooked up to the right places??

It sounds like the hoses may be reversed??
yeah they hoses are hooked up right
 
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 06:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethan Pratt
yes when turn the brakes work perfect that’s what has me confused
My theory is the spool valve in your hydroboost is not redirecting hydraulic fluid flow into the hydroboost's piston chamber like it should. When you are driving straight and apply the brakes, there is insufficient hydraulic pressure in the hydroboost to operate the brakes properly. When you turn the wheel, the rotary valve in the steering gear redirects hydraulic flow, causing hydraulic back pressure to the hydroboost thus allowing your brakes to operate (somewhat) normally.

As for why the spool valve in the hydroboost is not doing its job, it could either be damaged or contaminated. Did you blow the new hoses out with air before installing them?




This is my best guess based on working several years in the hydraulics industry but not being the engineer that designed this system.
 
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 08:58 AM
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My theory is the spool valve in your hydroboost is not redirecting hydraulic fluid flow into the hydroboost's piston chamber like it should. When you are driving straight and apply the brakes, there is insufficient hydraulic pressure in the hydroboost to operate the brakes properly. When you turn the wheel, the rotary valve in the steering gear redirects hydraulic flow, causing hydraulic back pressure to the hydroboost thus allowing your brakes to operate (somewhat) normally.

As for why the spool valve in the hydroboost is not doing its job, it could either be damaged or contaminated. Did you blow the new hoses out with air before installing them?




This is my best guess based on working several years in the hydraulics industry but not being the engineer that designed this system.
the thing is I’ve changed the hydro boost out also and still have the same problem
 
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Ethan Pratt
yeah they hoses are hooked up right
This is not that uncommon and folks that were SURE they were correct had them mixed up.

 
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Ethan Pratt
the thing is I’ve changed the hydro boost out also and still have the same problem
Did you replace the Hydroboost before or after replacing the hoses?
 
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 10:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FordTruckNoob
Did you replace the Hydroboost before or after replacing the hoses?
after changing the hoses that’s when the problem started
 
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Old Sep 28, 2020 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
This is not that uncommon and folks that were SURE they were correct had them mixed up.
I put the hoses on how they came off
 
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