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Old Sep 26, 2020 | 01:52 PM
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Originally Posted by HILLBILLY BOB
well my friend says that he still likes the crown vic.,and yes he knows it is to wide,but a welder friend of his told him that he could cut it and weld it so that it would fit his f1.i told him that he is crazy.i have not heard from him since.
I won't pretend to know your friend or your relationship but it sounds like he wasn't looking for advice only conformation .
 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 07:15 PM
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I did the CV IFS in my 1951 F1. I narrowed the aluminum cradle 2.75" and used a stock Mustang Foxbody rack and pinion. The rack mounts on the driver side cradle mounting stud. I had to make an offset-bracket to attach the passenger side of the rack. There is no noticeable bump steer with this. You would need to use the later SN95 Mustang inner Tie Rod ends to adapt the outer CV IFS tie rod ends.

The CV IFS is from 2003-2011 (some have aluminum or steel control arms, no real difference). I would recommend using a non-police car unit because the spring rate is heavy so it causes a rougher ride. You will have limited wheel selection options because you will need a positive offset wheel. The rear will need a standard offset. I found that American Racing has a good wheel selection without having to pay for a custom offset. You wont be able to use the stock sway bar, I might eventually add one to my truck.

The IFS was $300, steering rack was $150 or so (you can probably pick up a used unit for dirt cheap).
I have an aluminum welder/spool gun so that was no cost to me. I made a jig to hold the cradle in place while welding.

You will have to flatten the lower frame rail to evenly mount the cradle, cut, notch, weld. I welded in tubes as "crush sleeves" between the top and bottom rails. If you have the ability to weld or are willing to learn it is not too much more welding or fab work than a Mustang II IFS. It is labor intensive but was the most cost-effective solution for me.

You really need to add the entire cost of EVERYTING up for each IFS setup.

Steering column
brakes
IFS
engine mounts
steel plate for gussets/brackets
wheels/tires

 
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Old Oct 1, 2020 | 08:30 PM
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Thank you for clearing up our misconceptions. I am sure we all would like to see photos of your installation. I, for one, would like to see how it was done. Cool swap.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 06:14 AM
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Mike documented his build extensively at https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...e-51-f1-7.html
 
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Old Oct 2, 2020 | 06:30 PM
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I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong but aren't the jags the same as ford ?
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Ford owned Jaguar for a time, so one could make a case, even if it might be a stretch, that one could have a jag front end and still call it all Ford.

Personally, I'd make the case, but I'm also about wacky enough that I'd have to have the rotors redrilled 'cause that 4 3/4 bolt pattern would drive me nuts.
The XJ was designed in the mid 60's, ford bought Jag in the late 80's. The XJ40 was the first ford era design. (And even then it shares a lot with the earlier cars, and very little with anything ford. The x type/s type was the only 'ford' jaguar, being based on the mondeo's monocoque) The bolt pattern is also the same as chevy passenger cars, albiet with a slightly larger center bore size.

I wish jags weren't such excellent hot rod donors, so many have been cut up there's not so many left now.




I think bonus builts and XJ's can happily co-exist.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2020 | 05:28 PM
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i talked to my friend the other day and now he said that he is going to keep the jag ifs and rebuild it. he said he said thanks for the info.
 
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