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Old Oct 20, 2020 | 04:41 PM
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It should work just as good or bad as it does now when moved to the new motor.
I wonder if the dist in the new motor is also a TFI and your wires will plug into it?
I say this because I think you say the new motor was EFI and a computer would also control timing on that motor also.
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Yes it is EFI. I won't need it's computer will I? I should be able to use my wiring harness and computer correct? Since I'm converting it to carb
 
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Old Oct 20, 2020 | 05:12 PM
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If you're looking to do the duraspark swap, it shouldn't be all that costly even if you get all new parts. Probably the most expensive thing would be a stock vacuum advance distributor roughly $50-$80 or so depending on where you get it from. Then you would also need the duraspark ignition module ($40-$50 or so, ignition coil and the ballast resistor ($20 or so). Or you could get used parts if you can find them. I believe rockauto sells the duraspark ignition module pigtail connectors new. You can buy those and buy some bulk wire to get the length to go from your module to the distributor.
 
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Old Oct 20, 2020 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rick Springston
Yes it is EFI. I won't need it's computer will I? I should be able to use my wiring harness and computer correct? Since I'm converting it to carb
No you will not use the EFI computer.
You should be able to use YOUR wiring harness & computer.

What I meant with the EFI dist. see if your wiring / plug will fit it. I don't know if it will or not but if it does then you don't have to pull the EFI dist., find TDC and then drop your dist. in.
In "my book" the less you have to "swap", like the dist. the better. If your trucks plug will not fit the EFI dist then you will need to swap the dist.

The serp belt setup if you have everything in place where it can be used I think I would keep it in place.
The only thing you have to keep in mind is when you need any of the parts run by the serp belt.
That reminds me if you don't use the serp belt setup if you will need to swap the water pump?
On the v8's the water pump with the serp belt turns the other way than the V belt water pump does.
You will need to check that if you stick with the V belts and the serp pump.

Other than maybe the dist. & serp belt all you should need to do is unbolt the manifolds from both motors.
If you don't want to use the EFI exh. manifolds just bolt on your manifolds using a new gasket and your set.
If you want to use the EFI exh manifold you will need to unbolt the exh from your intake and bolt the EFI & your intake manifolds to the motor.

I think that should cover your questions if not ask away
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Old Oct 20, 2020 | 06:51 PM
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If the waterpump pulley on the newer serpentine setup is smooth, it does turn backwards, it runs on the backside of the belt. If the pulley has the little grooves, then it turns the conventional way, it's running on the normal side of the belt.
 
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by FuzzFace2
No you will not use the EFI computer.
You should be able to use YOUR wiring harness & computer.

What I meant with the EFI dist. see if your wiring / plug will fit it. I don't know if it will or not but if it does then you don't have to pull the EFI dist., find TDC and then drop your dist. in.
In "my book" the less you have to "swap", like the dist. the better. If your trucks plug will not fit the EFI dist then you will need to swap the dist.

The serp belt setup if you have everything in place where it can be used I think I would keep it in place.
The only thing you have to keep in mind is when you need any of the parts run by the serp belt.
That reminds me if you don't use the serp belt setup if you will need to swap the water pump?
On the v8's the water pump with the serp belt turns the other way than the V belt water pump does.
You will need to check that if you stick with the V belts and the serp pump.

Other than maybe the dist. & serp belt all you should need to do is unbolt the manifolds from both motors.
If you don't want to use the EFI exh. manifolds just bolt on your manifolds using a new gasket and your set.
If you want to use the EFI exh manifold you will need to unbolt the exh from your intake and bolt the EFI & your intake manifolds to the motor.

I think that should cover your questions if not ask away
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I just got off the phone with the shave yard in getting the motor from they said it won't come with any of the bike ons, like alternator water pump etc. So just to clarify all of my bolt-on parts will transfer over correct?
 
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Old Oct 21, 2020 | 03:21 PM
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They do on a V8. I have never done a inline six.
 
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Old Oct 22, 2020 | 03:49 PM
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It should on the 6 also but I have not done it to say 100% yes but I cant see why it will not?
It would be nicw to get the EFI exh manifolds as they flow better but not a big deal if not as your manifolds will bolt on.
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Old Oct 30, 2020 | 12:26 PM
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I've got to swap my pulley on my water pump will I need a till or does it just bolt on? And is it going to effect anything swapping my harmonic balancer?



 
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Old Oct 30, 2020 | 01:32 PM
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Looks like your fan is the thread on type. See if it says on the fan shroud "reverse thread" or "left hand thread". They can be fun to get off.
 
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Old Oct 30, 2020 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Franklin2
Looks like your fan is the thread on type. See if it says on the fan shroud "reverse thread" or "left hand thread". They can be fun to get off.
I think that is only if he wants to change the clutch from the blade no?
The clutch should still bolt to the pump with 4 bolts but I never had a clutch type fan on a six to say for sure.


I think it was posted that if the new motor water pump pulley was smooth it turned reverse from yours?
If so I would get a new water pump for your year motor and use your pulley & clutch fan.

When you pull the balancer, use a balancer puller, I would change out the seal unless it gets installed from the back side and at that point do you pull the timing gear cover to change it or not?
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Old Oct 30, 2020 | 07:16 PM
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If it's the thread on type, he has to unthread it to take the pulley off, and then take the waterpump off. Even if you can get the pump off and leave the pulley and fan in place, you need to swap the pulley over and it won't come off without threading the fan clutch off. You can leave the fan bolted to the clutch in most cases when taking it apart.
 
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Old Oct 31, 2020 | 03:12 AM
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I have not had the pleasure to deal with that type of fan / clutch assy.
I have seen it posted they can be a pain.
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 12:16 PM
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Ok good new problem I apparently didn't get enough pics from when I disconnected everything and I'm having problems figuring out what wires hook up to the back of the alternator. I also have some questions about whether or not the new motor I got is air in

This is what I think is the air in head. Mine didn't have this pipe









head because it's got a rail that runs across the top that I'm not sure what it is cuz my old motor didn't have it
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 01:29 PM
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That pipe is just smog stuff. If you don't have a smog pump and don't have underhood inspections, you don't have to hook that up.
 
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Old Dec 3, 2020 | 02:13 PM
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That pipe is just smog stuff. If you don't have a smog pump and don't have underhood inspections, you don't have to hook that up.
So then do I need to plug it off cuz I'm wanting to bypass my smog pump
 
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