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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 01:37 PM
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Exhaust system fluid failure

Ok good to know. Thanks
 
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Old Aug 31, 2020 | 07:58 PM
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A lot of times the bed bolts are so rusted they need to be cut off to remove the bed.
 
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My 2015 F250 CEL recently came on at 39K miles. OBD DTC is P2050 service recommends replacing reductant heater and pump, $4K. They claim parts are $1200 and will take 5 hours to remove and replace DEF tank, replace the heater and pump on top. Ford dealers say it's not covered by warranty. Any EGR SCF system which costs this much to repair is a faulty design.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by dafields_tx
My 2015 F250 CEL recently came on at 39K miles. OBD DTC is P2050 service recommends replacing reductant heater and pump, $4K. They claim parts are $1200 and will take 5 hours to remove and replace DEF tank, replace the heater and pump on top. Ford dealers say it's not covered by warranty. Any EGR SCF system which costs this much to repair is a faulty design.
Look up for recalls several are under extensions and those would be covered.

Not sure of your year but check into it.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 03:20 PM
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The DEF pump failed to indicate low fluid level. In other words, when checking DEF fluid level with system checks it indicated level was OK, but it was actually low. Evidently the pump and fluid level sensor became faulty because the fluid level was very low and crystals formed which caused the sensor to give a false "DEF fluid level is OK". And for what it's worth, the technician recommended topping off the DEF fluid and throwing away what you don't use. They said 1 gal size DEF fluid is now available. I followed the practice of filling only when the system said to fill with DEF fluid.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 03:32 PM
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no need to throw away the fluid.
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 04:16 PM
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Flushing out crystals

Has anyone tried flushing out crystals using DEF fluid or water?
 
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Old Sep 2, 2020 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by dafields_tx
The DEF pump failed to indicate low fluid level. In other words, when checking DEF fluid level with system checks it indicated level was OK, but it was actually low. Evidently the pump and fluid level sensor became faulty because the fluid level was very low and crystals formed which caused the sensor to give a false "DEF fluid level is OK". And for what it's worth, the technician recommended topping off the DEF fluid and throwing away what you don't use. They said 1 gal size DEF fluid is now available. I followed the practice of filling only when the system said to fill with DEF fluid.
Thanks for that info from the tech, this is my thought process as well. If the heater assembly is left uncovered it will build crystals. Also if the heater turns on with insufficient fluid I would expect it to overheat and cause premature burnout. I did get a countdown to limp mode once as a result of not letting the tank run near empty but it went away on it's own after a couple days. I would much rather deal with a confused computer than a burned out DEF heater.

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Has anyone tried flushing out crystals using DEF fluid or water?
I would think just filling the tank above the crystals would allow them to reabsorb into the fluid. But I'm just speculating.
 
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I agree @dirthawg

I've recently been following a fill interval of 3k miles or so. It takes about a 2.5 gallon jug of DEF.

I've posted on this before but I believe I read it here from a Ford tech that said fill up every 3 to 4k miles with 2.5 gallons to keep fluid on heater. That would seem to make sense to help the heater last longer, especially for us with cold winters. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by dafields_tx
My 2015 F250 CEL recently came on at 39K miles. OBD DTC is P2050 service recommends replacing reductant heater and pump, $4K. They claim parts are $1200 and will take 5 hours to remove and replace DEF tank, replace the heater and pump on top. Ford dealers say it's not covered by warranty. Any EGR SCF system which costs this much to repair is a faulty design.
isn’t the emissions system covered under warranty for 100K miles? I’m confused (which isn’t unusual &#128512
 
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Old Sep 7, 2020 | 07:23 PM
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what is the point of running the DEF tank almost to empty before filling? Is this only associated with the pre 17 trucks? I usually dump in a jug of DEF when the gauge shows 1/4. I only let it get to the 500 mile warning once. Am I missing something?
 
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMan
isn’t the emissions system covered under warranty for 100K miles? I’m confused (which isn’t unusual &#128512
I bought an extended warranty, 7 year/125k miles, thinking the same thing. But it is not. Only covered up to 80k miles. Not sure of yearly warranty though.
 
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Our pickups are 5 yr, 50k on emissions unfortunately.



 
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 06:45 AM
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ESP Premium care will cover these items. And the additional Diesel EngineCare plan will add coverage for the EGR cooler.


 
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Old Sep 8, 2020 | 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueRidgeMan

what is the point of running the DEF tank almost to empty before filling? Is this only associated with the pre 17 trucks? I usually dump in a jug of DEF when the gauge shows 1/4. I only let it get to the 500 mile warning once. Am I missing something?
Some model years had issues with filling early. The owner will fill before it warns but 1,000 miles later, for example, they get the count down even though that second level sensor doesn't trip to open. It was recommended to fill when the MTE countdown began.

For the 2011, the countdown began at 800 MTE then Ford changed it to 500 MTE a few years later if I remember correctly.
 
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