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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 10:02 AM
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Air Compressor Troubleshoot

Craftsman 4hp/25 gallon horizontal tank, 20+ years, good shape well took care of in dry shop.

Yesterday after 30 minuets use, I manually shut it of for a couple minuets.

Flipped back on, browned out shop power for a couple seconds, then motor turns at about quarter speed, struggling hard.

Shut it down & gave it an hour. Flipped it back on & it ran fine.

No drag on the piston/rod. No excessive play on motor,drag,on armature.

Should I be looking at replacing brushes or start capacitors?

Thoughts, recommendations?

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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 11:22 AM
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First thing I would check is the compressor oil level and clarity

 
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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Doesn't use oil. Some googling reveals likely start &/or run caps... which are un-obtanium
 
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 01:48 PM
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Doesn't use oil. Some googling reveals likely start &/or run caps... which are un-obtanium
Start and run caps are easily available, post up the ones you need and we can help.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 03:02 PM
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That's what I thought too. Will provide full boat shortly.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 03:35 PM
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Grainger has Dayton 2MDU5 that meets spec, but is too fat & $35 locally + would have to be strapped to the motor.

Original is 4-1/2 (4-3/8 seems common) x 1.42 (common what I've found is 1-13/16)

Haven't started trying to chase down the run, but should be more common, but I think it's probably the start.

The whole motor is odd-ball in that it seems most suppliers go from 3-1/2 to 5 hp (this is a 4) & 230vlt while this is an either/or 110/230 for the listed RPM.

I think the frame is a 6 inch (end case bolt across to end case bolt) or "56Z"







Sears Model for giggles



Thanks for your interest & time.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 06:36 PM
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Thats a 1hp motor for reference. Supplyhouse.com


 
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Old Aug 28, 2020 | 06:59 PM
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I found a fairly skinny start on Amazon this afternoon that had specs mis-listed till you drilled down for a buck more.

Looks like Zip ties will be the way regardless.

Thanks for the run, looks same.
 
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Drilled down on line & saw start was proper size.

Both should be on the way.

Thanks, I was going cross-eyed & had given up on finding 100% correct item.

Will let y'all know how it works out.
 
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Sometimes a sticky un-loader will also make it hard / slow to turn / start.
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I'll try & let you know. Box got here an hour ago. Will be heading out for a week sat & I could use air before trip.

When I flipped it on, if was running 200 RPM if that & the drag on the electrical system was unlike anything I'd ever seen since I built the joint.
 
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If you turn the power off while itls running it stops against head pressure and doesn't have a chance to vent, as I recal. this will cause hard starting. ??????????
 
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Don't know. Swapped out the start cap & ran from zero to auto stop @130.

Dumped the relief valve till the pressure dropped enough to kick on the motor 3 times, all without the shroud, so it should have gotten pretty warm.

Started fine, no drag, no brown out. When I get back, I'll be doing some grinding as to put some stress on it.

Till then, I call it good.

Thanx for your help Gashog.
 
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