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Old Aug 2, 2020 | 04:10 PM
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Wide molding placement.

I recently changed the entire body on my 78 F250, my old body had the wide molding down the center of the dent. Does anyone have mounting locations for this molding? size holes I need to drill and where they go? any help is appreciated.
 
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Old Aug 2, 2020 | 09:47 PM
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Actually it wasn't holes it was studs. but you can drill holes and use screws to hold the clips. it was dead center in the dent.
 
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X2 all these little spot welded on studs that stick out the middle of the dent (X# of them?). And the plastic trim mount clips slips on them. Now there are 3 actual holes. When you have dent trim only (with the black insert) and (NO race track trim) there is one on each end of the trim where it goes around the side marker lights and one for the cab trim piece. That one piece mounts with a large push in button style retaining clip and then one small s/m screw.
 
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 05:45 AM
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Actually it wasn't holes it was studs. but you can drill holes and use screws to hold the clips. it was dead center in the dent.
there is two holes on the front fenders, two on the door and twp on the box, studs for the plastic clips I'm nor concerned with, its the actual holes that I need locations
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 08:33 AM
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About the only way to do that is to put the molding in place and mark the holes. as long as it's dead center and fits the panel that's about all you can do. the trim will tell you where it needs to be

I would mock the entire side up and hold it on with tape . get it to where it looks good then mark the visible holes . drill them then run a straight line between the holes for your plastic clips then drill those.
 
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I would base the hole size off whatever hdwr works the best to hold the plastic clips on. I would work the hdwr over 1st and figure out what works the best (to not tighten down, and then break the plastic clip. Make sense?

The 2 holes in the doors very fwd and rear edge (I forgot about them) are for the the threaded stud mount style clips on each end of the trim and then there are 3 plastic clips in the middle.

There should be 3 holes in the fender (1 in front of the side marker light), 1 just behind and a little bit back from the side marker light) and 1 at the door end of the fender. All 3 have the threaded stud mount clip. And 3 plastic in the middle.








 
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Old Aug 3, 2020 | 05:39 PM
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Yes the stud holes are what I'm referring too Rich. the plastic clips have adjustment but the studs need to be pretty accurate which is why I was hoping someone had some panels that they could measure. And I forgot about the very front one on the fender.
 
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If was not on the road working.... you know I would of already had a tape measure laid on there and be firing you all measurements. Yes the plastic clips have sliding L&R in the chrome adjustment but NOT up and down. They just slip on the rivet like stud head and lock on.

Now the end metal mount pieces do not have alot of movement. In fact I seem to remember the very front is crimped in place. The one behind the side marker can slide. The one at the door not much. Slide it fwd to remove all together.
 
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That you would Rich, I'll be pop riveting the plastic clips on but those stud holes are the problematic ones. appreciate all the input.
 
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I am sure I am not the only one that has a spare fender/door setting around. And a paper pattern trace would work the best IMO.
 
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Would love to find one, I bought one for the cab lights and it was well worth the 30 bucks.
 
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I have a couple fenders I can get you the measurement for the drilled stud holes if that's what you're after. it's really not that critical since they can be moved.

I wouldn't rivet the clips. not only id there a good chance it will break and distort them but they're intended to be able to move slightly to align themselves.
 
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Originally Posted by 440 sixpack
it's really not that critical since they can be moved. I agree because the plastic clips can slide into different places in the trim.

I wouldn't rivet the clips. Not only is there a good chance it will break and distort them but they're intended to be able to move slightly to align themselves.
Again I agree 100%. I would think this thru very carefully as far as how to attach the clips. Are you at least getting new/repop clips? I would not mess with putting a 40 year old clips on there. Bound to break on you. And when you figure out the hole placement, and get done reilling you need to primer/rust prevent that area very well on both sides. The trim that has the mount studs at least should make their holes easy.

Not sure if the plastic clips went on the truck, then the trim snapped on them or how it got put on at the factory.
 
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When I installed this molding on my truck that didn't have it originally, I did not rivet the clips on. I didn't want to drill all those holes in my body. I used a stud welder to weld the trim pins on. It was easy to do, & they are still holding strong 17 years later. Do the installation of the studs & the drilling of the holes for the metal trim clips before you start any body or paint work. And get paint on the back of all the panels where you drill or weld the trim pins on.

The plastic clips get clipped on to the pins, then the trim snaps over them to install.
 
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Old Aug 6, 2020 | 10:23 PM
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I have a couple fenders I can get you the measurement for the drilled stud holes if that's what you're after. it's really not that critical since they can be moved.

I wouldn't rivet the clips. not only id there a good chance it will break and distort them but they're intended to be able to move slightly to align themselves.
If you could pull measurements that would be much appreciated. . planned on using stainless steel rivets to mount the clips.
 
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