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Old Jul 19, 2020 | 08:43 PM
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Help with transmission id

I have a chance to get this trans for cheap. i am curious what it would take to go into my 59 f100 with 292 and current t98 4-speed. It says R10F-1g.


 
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 12:47 PM
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Looks like a three speed with over drive. Trucks in this vintage came with them. You would need to get a few electrical components such as a kickdown switch that goes under the gas pedal, relay, and governor. That solenoid hanging off the side of it would probably need going through as well. In addition you would need to have manual control handle that actuates a cable to engage it. Quite few pieces needed but if you can pick it up cheap it would be worth keeping even if you don't install it. They are not makin'em anymore! I drove a 51 ****** station wagon with the family in it for a 600 mile trip years ago. It had a 4 cylinder and a three speed overdrive. It was a blast to drive!
 
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 01:26 PM
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Kinda looks like a passenger car version with the small input shaft and the pad for the transmission mount.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 01:36 PM
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Would this have been a column shifter trans?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 01:37 PM
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This is the Ford light-duty 3speed with a Borg warner R10 overdrive. Typically used behind the 6 cylinders.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ianmattf100
Would this have been a column shifter trans?
I would think so. Regardless of what it originally came in, it would have had a column shifter from the factory.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Ianmattf100
Would this have been a column shifter trans?

Yes column shift trans.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2020 | 07:06 PM
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I took one out of a 60 truck with a 223. I got the truck from the original owner who said he bought it that way. Mine also had that spot for a cross member but didn't. Here is a pic of the day I got it.
 
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Old Jul 21, 2020 | 06:45 AM
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Thanks for the info guys. So all in all it seams like going from a floor shift 4-speed T98 to this R10F sounds like a lot of work. If i really want overdrive I am feeling like if I spent some extra money and had my bell housing modified then a T5 might be a better choice.
 
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Originally Posted by Ianmattf100
Thanks for the info guys. So all in all it seams like going from a floor shift 4-speed T98 to this R10F sounds like a lot of work. If i really want overdrive I am feeling like if I spent some extra money and had my bell housing modified then a T5 might be a better choice.

Tou would have to use one of the aftermarket 3 speed floor shifters if you do not want to go to a column shift and add all the ancillary electrical for the overdrive.
 
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Old Jul 29, 2020 | 11:20 PM
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I'm pretty sure the LD transmissions including the O/D need a different bellhousing to the 4-speed. Also, those O/D transmissions were used by various makes, so there are different input shaft splines and sizes, which could mean some futzing with throwout bearing, clutch disc, and maybe pilot bearing, plus you'll need to chop a driveshaft to fit.
The light-duty transmissions are more breakable than the 4 speed, and they don't have that granny low 1st gear, something I've wished I had in my '57 panel more than once when encountering a steep hill with a full load. Now, if I read the Ford Truck Parts catalog correctly, the bellhousing you have should fit a Clark 250 5-speed transmission. There's even an overdrive version (250VO); and maybe some newer versions like 285.
https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/5...ive-clark.html
 
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