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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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400m compression

I'am getting ready to do a re-built on a 79 F250 400. This truck is used to plow snow in Michigan so I'am after big power at low end. I was all set on Badger 9:1 but the machine shop I'am going to use said it would be a bad idea to raise the c/a on a motor for this type of use. What to you guys think??? Please do not say drop in a 460.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 06:14 PM
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It should be just fine, don't go any higher on the compresion though, these motors came with a 8.0-8.2:1.

Good luck on the build up, let us know what your combination is.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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Look at any Ford or GM gas engine built for heavy duty applications. They all are low compression engines. There is a reason for this.
 
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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In addition to the Badger pistons, get a Cloyes double roller timing set and install the crank gear at zero degrees. Then you need a good high lift camshaft.

Check out this article.

http://www.projectbronco.com/Technic...e_build_up.htm
 
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Old Oct 19, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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Here is a great hydraulic roller camshaft. It will give you great low end torque with a dual plane intake and headers (even without). The intake valve closing angle of 76 degrees will knock that 9:1 Static Compression Ratio down to 6.5 to 1 Dynamic Compression Ratio. This is below the low end of acceptable DCR.

Series & Grind Number:
PowerMax HR-228/345-2S-12 Hydraulic Roller Dual Pattern

Part Number 529801 (Cam Only)
Suggested Retail $336.00

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Cam Specs

Degrees Duration @ .050 Int./Exh. Degrees Advertised Duration Int./Exh. Degree Lobe Separation Open/Close @.050" Cam Lift Int./Exh. Lash Hot Int./Exh. Gross Lift Int./Exh.
228
232 290
294 112 7 41
53 (1) .000
.000 .597
.609

There should be an RV type hydraulic roller with an earlier 'Advertised' IVC. I calculate about 48 degrees should be right for 9:1 CR.
 

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Old Oct 20, 2003 | 07:53 AM
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Here is another Crane cam that should work well with 9:1 CR. It is a flat hydraulic lifter cam and much cheaper than a roller. It doesn't have as much lift as that roller, but the IVC is better at 61 degrees. The Dynamic compression ratio is 7.46:1. It will still produce a lot of low end torque, and you can probably burn 87 Octane fuel.

Part Number: 523904
Grind Number: H-260-2 (REPLACES HMV-260-2)
Engine Ident: 1970-1982 FORD-MERCURY V-8 BOSS 351-351C-
351M-400 CU.IN. SMOOTH IDLE, DAILY USAGE,
OFF ROAD, LIGHT TOWING, ECONOMY

VALVE SETTING: INTAKE .000 EXHAUST .000 ----> HOT

LIFT: INTAKE @CAM 2847 @VALVE 493 ROCKER ARM RATIO
EXHAUST @CAM 290 @VALVE 502 1.73
ALL LIFTS ARE BASED ON ZERO LASH AND THEORETICAL ROCKER ARM RATIOS

CAM TIMING OPENS CLOSES ADV DURATION
@ .004 INTAKE 19.0 BTDC 61.0 ABDC 260.0 °
TAPPET LIFT EXHAUST 69.0 BBDC 27.0 ATDC 276.0 °

SPRING REQUIREMENTS
TRIPLE DUAL OUTER INNER
PART NUMBER 99837

LOADS:
CLOSED 90 LBS @ 1.828 OR 1 53/64
OPEN 255 LBS @ 1.348
RECOMMENDED RPM
RANGE WITH MATCHING COMPONENTS
MINIMUM RPM 1500
MAXIMUM RPM 4500
VALVE FLOAT 6500

CAM TIMING OPENS CLOSES MAX LIFT DURATION
@ .050 INTAKE (5.0) ATDC 29.0 ABDC 107 °ATDC 204.0 °
TAPPET LIFT EXHAUST 44.0 BBDC (10.0) BTDC 117 °BTDC 214.0 °
 
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