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Hi,
i have an 85 f150 straight six 300. Im having an issue with the truck not starting. i replaced the starter solenoid and nothing, i turn the switch and hear nothing. i hook up the old solenoid that was sometimes working and it does nothing either. Battery is charged and when i check the small wire that hooks on the solenoid i get the 12.34 the battery is showing. i think this is the 12 volts from the switch.
not sure what else to check?
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i have an 85 f150 straight six 300. Im having an issue with the truck not starting. i replaced the starter solenoid and nothing, i turn the switch and hear nothing. i hook up the old solenoid that was sometimes working and it does nothing either. Battery is charged and when i check the small wire that hooks on the solenoid i get the 12.34 the battery is showing. i think this is the 12 volts from the switch.
not sure what else to check?
Thanks
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So you are getting lights and when not when you turn the key to on but when turned to start nothing happens.
You checked the small wire on the "S" stud of the solenoid and when key turned to start you get 12+ volts, if so that is good.
What if you were to jump from the battery pos to that small "S" lug on the solenoid what happens? MAKE SURE truck is not in gear!
If nothing when you do this check for volts on the large stud with the cable going to the starter. If still nothing then I would say bed solenoid.
Might be a good time to change the battery cables for new ones and clean all the grounds.
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So you are getting lights and when not when you turn the key to on but when turned to start nothing happens.
You checked the small wire on the "S" stud of the solenoid and when key turned to start you get 12+ volts, if so that is good.
What if you were to jump from the battery pos to that small "S" lug on the solenoid what happens? MAKE SURE truck is not in gear!
If nothing when you do this check for volts on the large stud with the cable going to the starter. If still nothing then I would say bed solenoid.
Might be a good time to change the battery cables for new ones and clean all the grounds.
Dave ----
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Thanks Dave,
i jumped from the plus side of the battery to the S lug with a wire and still nothing. i bought a new positive cable still nothing. I'll clean the ground cable that goes to the tranny tomorrow.
Something unusual, the other day, i got it cranked and it looked like sparks was shooting from the solenoid, so i changed it to this one. I've tried the old one again and nothing. Sound like a ground issue, so maybe after i clean the ground tomorrow i check it again.
i jumped from the plus side of the battery to the S lug with a wire and still nothing. i bought a new positive cable still nothing. I'll clean the ground cable that goes to the tranny tomorrow.
Something unusual, the other day, i got it cranked and it looked like sparks was shooting from the solenoid, so i changed it to this one. I've tried the old one again and nothing. Sound like a ground issue, so maybe after i clean the ground tomorrow i check it again.
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Thanks Dave,
i jumped from the plus side of the battery to the S lug with a wire and still nothing. i bought a new positive cable still nothing. I'll clean the ground cable that goes to the tranny tomorrow.
Something unusual, the other day, i got it cranked and it looked like sparks was shooting from the solenoid, so i changed it to this one. I've tried the old one again and nothing. Sound like a ground issue, so maybe after i clean the ground tomorrow i check it again.
i jumped from the plus side of the battery to the S lug with a wire and still nothing. i bought a new positive cable still nothing. I'll clean the ground cable that goes to the tranny tomorrow.
Something unusual, the other day, i got it cranked and it looked like sparks was shooting from the solenoid, so i changed it to this one. I've tried the old one again and nothing. Sound like a ground issue, so maybe after i clean the ground tomorrow i check it again.
On my 81 with a 300 that ground cable going to the " top starter bolt" also has a tab / lug that goes to a bolt on the frame rail, that's the frame ground.
Now that we have the frame & motor / trans grounded let ground the body. On the left side of the motor there should be a heavy gauge wire, I used 10 ga. going from motor to firewall, this is the body ground.
There is a braided wire from firewall to hood over on the right side.
Note the solenoid needs to be grounded to the fender so a good body ground is needed and where it bolts to is clean.
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Kinda sounds like the fender itself is not well grounded. For a quick test, connect a jumper between the starter relay housing and the battery's (-) terminal. See if that makes any difference.
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My work truck still smells like the land fill and I have hosed it off 3 times now.
Good to hear you got the truck working again and was an easy fix.
And thanks for letting us know as it may help others if they come across this post.
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Thanks Dave,
i'm having a little bogging now. i'll change the plugs and check the timing. it seems like the timing isn't right. It's a 3 speed with od, and when i'm going from first to second it's pretty slugest. i'll change the fuel filter while i'm at it, but it doesn't seem like a fuel issue.
The truck is an 85 300 one barrel. i have the timing at 10, how much can i increase it.
Barry
i'm having a little bogging now. i'll change the plugs and check the timing. it seems like the timing isn't right. It's a 3 speed with od, and when i'm going from first to second it's pretty slugest. i'll change the fuel filter while i'm at it, but it doesn't seem like a fuel issue.
The truck is an 85 300 one barrel. i have the timing at 10, how much can i increase it.
Barry
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Sleep I am lucky if I can get 4 hours before I am out the door for work again.
I am up any where between 12am and 3am, jump in the shower and out the door.
Getting home between 5pm and 8pm, make my lunch for the next day and depending how I feel may have dinner or go straight to bed.
Does not make the wife happy the hours I keep but its a job and I am the only one working at this time.
I drive a trailer truck, 25 to 26 tons of powdered cement to plants or 10,000 gallons of LP gas to bulk plants.
Just kidding on the half days we all have to do what we have to right?
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I am up any where between 12am and 3am, jump in the shower and out the door.
Getting home between 5pm and 8pm, make my lunch for the next day and depending how I feel may have dinner or go straight to bed.
Does not make the wife happy the hours I keep but its a job and I am the only one working at this time.
I drive a trailer truck, 25 to 26 tons of powdered cement to plants or 10,000 gallons of LP gas to bulk plants.
Just kidding on the half days we all have to do what we have to right?
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You call that tough? Why, I have to get up before bedtime! Dinner was a dry lump of poison...
(Thanks for the great set-up, BTW)