I'm drinking what you're pushing. My thoughts 1000%

 

Yeah, not yet. Was getting ahead of the curve and being tongue in cheek. No harm, no foul.

 

There's no curve to get ahead of. Like you said, no harm no foul, no assumptions.

 

Comes down to you have to be happy with what you are running and other peoples thoughts really don't matter you must be happy.

That being said it is becoming more and more difficult to sell a diesel that had factory installed emissions equipment to a dealer as the regulations/law requires all applicable equipment be installed and functioning before it can be sold.

I was a victim of these laws not because I tried to sell a truck but because someone wanted to, they stole the entire system except for the DEF tank out from under my truck when I was on a job assignment. Cost over $3500.00 to get everything from the Turbo outlet to the rear axle replaced. Seems a used exhaust for the 6.7 goes for $1500.00, worth a lot more than the cost of scrap.

I was also stopped in California by the Highway Patrol and ticketed as "Gross Polluter" due to my old 6.9 smoked after a little after idling for extended periods (I got stuck in traffic jam for 5 hours), had a broken oil ring. again I was completing a job assignment in California this time. Didn't matter that I was from Washington it was their laws and when in their state you must abide by them.

Just be aware that even if there are no testing requirements where you live there are still possible ramifications to doing the modifications.

 

I must have FTE PTSD....

 

I have the info printed out but forget what company does it, there's a company that must cut out the ceramic soot "filtering" material and cleans it. I don't know how well they work but I can't imagine it's better than a brand new piece. They sell that reconditioned part along with a kit to allow an owner to cut out theirs and reinstall their kit.

Those particulate filter components need to be serviced as all the other parts of the DPF are normally still good to go. I understand the concept of Ford not having that as a serviceable part as they make money selling the whole thing which IMO, is wrong and greedy as hell. Fomoco would probably solve a lot of their problems with the particulate filters and subsequent CELs by making them serviceable from the factory. But their bottom line is profit.

For work situations like a ranch truck and others where the truck idles a lot, I get deleting. I really do. In my honest and inexperienced opinion, I believe that's why Ford came out with the new 7.3 gasser. Sure it's the biggest and strongest gas engine out there, check it out Ram and GM. But it's over engineered and meant to go the distance for commercial use. I'm imagining Ford listened to the commercial customers on this one. So the 7.3 will be a great solution for those who can't delete, don't want to due to less options out there or who would be happy with a modern, well built big block gas engine.

IMO, emissions still have to advance to the point of being reliable in all situations moving forward. I was in high school in the early 80s when my dad was removing all the inefficient and unreliable "smog" components off our cars. Back then, the performance of those early emissions equipped cars was not what they were supposed to be. Look how far the gassers have evolved. So I believe that diesel emission technologies are still evolving because they have to in this "climate change" environment that is being jammed down our throats.

But DI engines still put out particulate matter that the EPA has ignored. While it's not as much as a diesel vehicle, there are more gas cars/trucks out there then there are diesel trucks like ours. I have seen articles and studies on this very subject. Particulate filters are probably coming for the gassers at one point. Don't shoot the messenger. Just stating the facts.

 

I suspect that the reason that Ford doesn't make the DPF easily serviced is that an easily serviced DPF is also easily removed and left out.

 

Hahahhahhaaa!

You said it, NOT me! All good...

Trust me, if it was easier and not have the attention it does now, I'd probably delete with a stock and tow tune together when I had issues with the DPF.

 

Could very well be. I believe that there would be guys who have had success with it and no problems but reached the end of life for it would keep it. Not all but some.

 

Dave,
I'm still early in the life of my delete. So far, it's running great. I have a 40 HP Tow Tune. I'm just after reliability, not outrageous power. I did it for the reasons you touched on - an elusive, continuing problem with the SCR system. I kept ALL of my components, and, if necessary, will re-install them and pick up where I left off with diagnosing the root cause. I would have preferred to keep it stock and emissions compliant, but I need the truck to be a reliable worker when I start towing my 5th wheel, and I just wasn't feeling any confidence in it.

BTW, I just ordered a 5 gallon pail of Triax Supreme 5W-40 and a Motorcraft filter. I plan to change the oil this weekend. I'm hoping that without the EGR, the oil won't get as much contamination as the stock set up does. Not sure if this is realistic at all...

Regards,
John

 

80's cars had terrible performance even with the smog crap removed. I feel like diesels became the target of the tree huggers because of the coal rollers.

Your oil should definitely stay cleaner without EGR.

 

Good luck with the truck John. I hope it gives you many miles and years of enjoyment. Thanks for commenting.

Is the Supreme the full synthetic or the blend?

 

I believe coal rollers and social media were definitely part of the problem. But it's also the progressive, everything's gotta be green unrealistic attitudes these days. The black smoke coming out of diesel vehicles didn't help any.

The oil will stay real clean without the EGR. I've heard from guys here plus a couple of guys I've got to know here.

 

It's Full Synthetic. Here's the Amazon link for the 5 gallon pail. Works out to about $6 per quart.

John

https://www.triaxlubricants.com/tria...el-engine-oil/

 

I don't know but one car I remember specifically is my buddy's late 80s IROQ Z28 with a stick shift and that car pulled pretty well. I think the 70s cars were really horrible was probably what I meant. But I still believe the diesels are going through the growing pains the gassers back then did when it comes to emissions.