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Old Jul 1, 2020 | 12:17 AM
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Transmission Hard Lines

Going to run hard steel lines from C6 to radiator cooler. After all these years it is part steel part rubber tubing. I have a line bender and a great Eastman double flare tool. Any tips or tricks? I would like the line out of the radiator to have a tight radius so it doesn't stick out so far but the tube bender determines that. Thought of using a 90 degree elbow and just run steel line into that. Not sure, just fishing for some good tips from anyone that has done this.
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Old Jul 1, 2020 | 08:13 AM
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You will have some rubber in the lines, right? If it is all steel from the trans to the radiator it's going to eventually break because the trans moves under load.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2020 | 01:51 PM
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You can run directly into your trans cooler under the radiator but you may notice, on original vehicles which are done that way, always have a "loop" or U-bend in the cooler line to avoid what Mark stated above. I have had several vehicles with the cooler lines plumbed "hard" into flare adapters into the radiator and they have all been designed this way. So, o.k. to make tight bends near the radiator but think about creating quite a bit of extra hard line that will flex and bend as the engine/trans vibrate independent of the radiator which is bolted to the front clip. I would advise you look at the original design.
 
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Old Jul 1, 2020 | 11:54 PM
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I just did this the other day. It is fairly easy to bend the metal lines. As people already pointed out, if you go all metal, make some tension relief for the engine movement etc. I don't use loops but am sure to make a large question mark like bend. So out of the radiator turn down toward the passenger side inner fender, then once past the engine mount, turn back toward the engine for about 4". This creates a sort of question mark shape that will absorb the movement.
I will say that after I did all of this, I tore it out and ran steel braided AN6 lines with a cooler, temp sensor, and oil filter. It was far easier, looks better, and cools great.

 
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Old Jul 3, 2020 | 11:48 PM
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It came stock with hard lines from Transmission to radiator and back. I have heard you need lines to have "give" in them but some say no. So why did it come stock as Hard line?
 
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Originally Posted by Ace Zoot
It came stock with hard lines from Transmission to radiator and back. I have heard you need lines to have "give" in them but some say no. So why did it come stock as Hard line?
They used the hard line because is was impervious to breaking with the stress. Take a 3ft line and form it to a 4" pipe at 270 degrees then take each end and and move it up and down trying to break it, remember the movement is less than a inch, You will be there forever. That's why.
 
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Old Jul 4, 2020 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Christmas
They used the hard line because is was impervious to breaking with the stress. Take a 3ft line and form it to a 4" pipe at 270 degrees then take each end and and move it up and down trying to break it, remember the movement is less than a inch, You will be there forever. That's why.
That is not how fatigue works... Hard line is not impervious to breaking. Bend it half a million times and report back.

Run a section of rubber hose. If they didn't have a hose from the factory they should have. Not a lot of extra work and if high quality hose is used there is piece of mind.

 
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