Notices
1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks 1987 - 1996 Ford F-150, F-250, F-350 and larger pickups - including the 1997 heavy-duty F250/F350+ trucks

Two blown head gaskets.

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 26, 2020 | 07:32 AM
  #1  
DEO51886's Avatar
DEO51886
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Two blown head gaskets.

Well I believe I finally found the source of my miss fire problems on the Trouble truck.
both head gaskets blown, one of which I believe might have been blown within minutes of cranking this engine the first time due to the fact that the #2 bolt on passenger side head was finger tight! Mismatched head gaskets. Carbon and burned oil blown into the lifter valley for a while on cylinder #2
I believe I’m just going to tear the entire engine down now after finding that head bolt finger tight since I no longer trust the build quality. It’s a jasper class1 build from 2005 or 6.
cylinders7&8 were leaking coolant. Honestly I’m surprised the truck ran as well as it did.

What engine gasket kit would those of you in the know these days recommend?
I have considered the Mahle kit but wasn’t sure. I have seen multiple times people saying to use fel pro gaskets only however I can’t find the one with the one piece rubber oil pan gasket in it. Pistons are marked for .040 over bore already.
what day you as the group?
truck is a daily driver/ that does quite a bit of work on my days off as well. 1994 Ford F 250 5.8 H code hydraulic roller motor. E4OD trans 4x2.
 
Reply
Old May 26, 2020 | 09:14 AM
  #2  
GNR22's Avatar
GNR22
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,197
Likes: 558
From: Central Wisconsin
https://www.summitracing.com/parts/f...1731/make/ford

This is a very complete set. The description claims that it doesn't come with the gasket for between the upper and lower intake, but I'm almost positive that mine came with it when I ordered this.
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2020 | 01:21 PM
  #3  
Summitracing's Avatar
Summitracing
SPONSOR
5 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Feb 2020
Posts: 316
Likes: 104
From: Ohio,Georgia,Nevada,Texas
That Fel-Pro full gasket kit GNR22 linked is a nice gasket set. We looked into this further and it does include the upper plenum gasket. We confirmed it with Fel-Pro. You can also see it pictured here on their site. It's on the left in the 3rd row from the top. It also includes the rubber one-piece oil pan gasket.

We'll get our description and image fixed to better represent what is included in the gasket kit.
 
__________________

800-230-3030
www.Summitracing.com


Reply
Old May 27, 2020 | 01:29 PM
  #4  
GNR22's Avatar
GNR22
Logistics Pro
10 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 4,197
Likes: 558
From: Central Wisconsin
Originally Posted by Summitracing
That Fel-Pro full gasket kit GNR22 linked is a nice gasket set. We looked into this further and it does include the upper plenum gasket. We confirmed it with Fel-Pro. You can also see it pictured here on their site. It's on the left in the 3rd row from the top. It also includes the rubber one-piece oil pan gasket.

We'll get our description and image fixed to better represent what is included in the gasket kit.
Glad I could help.
 
Reply
Old May 27, 2020 | 03:35 PM
  #5  
DEO51886's Avatar
DEO51886
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Thank you guys, it’s been purchased and on its way. I did some more research thinking it had cork valve cover gaskets which it does not, it has the reusable rubber.
 
Reply
Old Jun 4, 2020 | 11:37 PM
  #6  
DEO51886's Avatar
DEO51886
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
So that set did have the cork gaskets in it but on a better note... even though #4 intake hit the piston at some point it did not bend the valve. I believe the lifter collapsed or leaked down at some point and the pushrod popped up on top of the lifter. The retainer clip in the lifter was broken smashed in two. With a chip out of the top of the ring it clips into. Found all pieces sitting behind the dog bone in the recess it sits in! #2 cylinder has been leaking for some time as evidence by the carbon and burned oil in lifter valley that ate the intake lifter up.
heads back from machine shop and back on the truck. Got the Lower plenum on tonite.
this has been a rather eventful head gasket replacement as the truck now has a new cam, lifters, springs and rocker arms, water pump, balancer, timing set. Replaced leaking 4 piece oil pan gasket with one piece.





 
Reply
Old Jun 19, 2020 | 08:21 PM
  #7  
DEO51886's Avatar
DEO51886
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Truck finally back together, had to get longer pushrods for exhaust side. Between running on all cylinders again and the new cam it’s like a whole new truck!
frp lifters
factory rockers
sealed powers pushrods couldn’t get the length I needed even after measuring w adjustable pushrod so ended up putting shins under the rocker pedestals.
comp 35-512-8 cam and matching springs
factory timing set
ultrasonic cleaned and back flushed injectors
motor mounts
freeze plugs.
fixing to replace condenser compressor and accumulator as soon as they arrive.

 
Reply
Old Jun 23, 2020 | 07:02 PM
  #8  
DEO51886's Avatar
DEO51886
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Well the machinist was correct, the driver side head gasket was not blown. The head was cracked it’s still cracked! Everything back together and ran to work twice was re checking header bolts and noticed ALOT of coolant on the passenger side of the block. The heads got swapped side for side when I put them back on didn’t realize it till I had the intake down, valve train all back together.
anyways I thought it odd that the coolant was about the same place. It’s cracked above the lower head bolt hole.
now I need to find another head get this one pulled back off and get it to him to match the machine work and swap my springs and such AFTER a very good checking over.

#2 exhaust port
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jun 24, 2020 | 07:10 AM
  #9  
torq'ta 5 8's Avatar
torq'ta 5 8
Lead Driver
5 Year Member
Shutterbug
Liked
Loved
Joined: Jan 2019
Posts: 5,063
Likes: 860
From: N.W. Alabama
Man! what rotten luck, what length pushrod was in exhaust, to have to change?
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2020 | 08:38 AM
  #10  
DEO51886's Avatar
DEO51886
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by torq'ta 5 8
Man! what rotten luck, what length pushrod was in exhaust, to have to change?
Don’t recall the length off hand, but the base circle on the new cam was smaller than what had been in it.
mom a good note I found a set of 302 E7te heads for $50 bucks Going to pick them up tomorrow nite. Need to have the machine work done and head bolt holes enlarged from 7/16” to 1/2”
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2020 | 08:55 AM
  #11  
jackietreehorn's Avatar
jackietreehorn
Cargo Master
5 Year Member
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 2,738
Likes: 217
From: Northern VA
DEO I have a nice 351 E7TE head I've been trying to get rid of. Only 32k miles on it. You can have it for just shipping if you like. Otherwise it goes to the scrap. One catch--The front most intake bolt needs drilled out/heliocoiled.
 
Reply
Old Jun 24, 2020 | 10:36 AM
  #12  
DEO51886's Avatar
DEO51886
Thread Starter
|
New User
Joined: Feb 2012
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Hopefully this will get enough traffic to answer my question without a new thread.
Is there any known problem with running a single E7te head from a 5.0 with an original 5.8 E7te on the other cylinder bank?
From what I have gathered the difference is in the head bolt holes being 7/16” (5.0) vs 1/2” (5.8)
 
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
dairydude
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
8
Mar 13, 2019 09:46 AM
TitusDH
1948 - 1956 F1, F100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
10
Apr 13, 2018 12:20 PM
fishin machine
Small Block V8 (221, 260, 289, 5.0/302, 5.8/351W)
15
Feb 2, 2008 07:39 AM
Reidicus
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
1
Sep 12, 2006 07:46 PM
nmarlowe
Ford Inline Six, 200, 250, 4.9L / 300
9
Sep 1, 2004 07:25 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:44 AM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE