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Old May 25, 2020 | 02:48 PM
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Fuel pump o-ring

So I have fuel pooling in the valley right under the fuel pump banjo bolt on my 1997 F250 with 178K miles. I'm replacing the fuel pump and banjo bolt washers.When I got the pump out I discovered that it's a Carter p/n M61067 pump, which I'm not sure is original (perhaps it is on Internationals???), so perhaps it's been replaced at some point. I also saw when it was out and cleaned up that the bottom o-ring that goes in the block was torn. Has anyone ever seen this o-ring fail?



 
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Old May 25, 2020 | 03:55 PM
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Looks like someone did not lube the o-ring and it messed it up putting it in. As far as I know it holds no pressure just seals. IIRC all the mechanical pumps were carter.
 
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Old May 25, 2020 | 06:28 PM
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No way would I ever have a pump out and not replace it.
it's always the culprit or will leak the next day.
 
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Old May 25, 2020 | 07:26 PM
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No way would I ever have a pump out and not replace it.
it's always the culprit or will leak the next day.
He said he is replacing.
 
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Old May 25, 2020 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by BuddyBarnes
He said he is replacing.
Oops, I saw the gaskets and orings but completely missed the fuel pump lol. Sorry.

Lovely that I'm going to be resealing all this loveliness on my truck very soon as well. Uggg I should just do refuel but not right now
Also, the oring is prob torn due to improper initial install.
 
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Old May 26, 2020 | 05:31 PM
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I have what looks like oil leaking down the back of my block, and I have fuel pooling in the valley under the banjo bolt, so it would be awesome if the fuel pump was the culprit of both my leaks; fuel pooling in the valley from the weep hole washing oil from the o-ring down the back of the block.
 
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Old May 26, 2020 | 06:47 PM
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You are so deep already, highly consider e-fuel
 
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Old May 26, 2020 | 07:16 PM
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If the fuel pump does not solve the oil issue. Check the turbo pedestal really well
 
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Old May 30, 2020 | 01:08 PM
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Got the job done. What I found easiest was to loosen the fuel filter bowl to get the fuel hoses back on. I use some standard 3/8 bulk fuel line from O'Reillys. I cut them just a tad shorter than the originals to give some wiggle room and slid the bottom one on the filter bowl nipple first, then angled the pump into the hole while attaching the bottom hose. The top two went easily. Thankfully I don't have meat hands, so after taking the engine hook off I was able to get the banjo bolt started without much issue. The y-pipe I also found easier to reattach by putting the hoses on the engine and sliding the y-pipe over them. I'm not sure if it was necessary, but I left the key to the "on" position for about 30 seconds before starting to prime the fuel system, and it fired right up. I don't see any more fuel leaking in the valley, but still have some oil dripping on the ground, so it doesn't seem like my two birds with one stone hope came true.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2020 | 04:40 PM
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Had exact symptoms as this. I actually could see a slight splatter/mist under the fuel pump near passenger side mounting bolt, red area below, which pooled into valley behind pump. I am about to pull it. Assume the fuel is coming out the very small hole just above the o-ring in the above carter pics? Torn diaphragm?

Anyone know PN for the fuel banjo rings? I really don't think they are my leak, but assume I should replace if I can find the part.



 
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You might want to be careful with that 3/8 fuel line. Most of that stuff is not rated for diesel. It will break down in pretty short order. It can leak and send crap into your fuel bowl. If you didn’t ask the counter guy for diesel rated stuff I would double check it to prevent future problems.
 
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Originally Posted by Ed in Maine
Had exact symptoms as this. I actually could see a slight splatter/mist under the fuel pump near passenger side mounting bolt, red area below, which pooled into valley behind pump. I am about to pull it. Assume the fuel is coming out the very small hole just above the o-ring in the above carter pics? Torn diaphragm?

Anyone know PN for the fuel banjo rings? I really don't think they are my leak, but assume I should replace if I can find the part.


Good idea to replace those seals; that banjo bolt is not something you want to have to do twice. You'll find out the turbo pedestal webbing will make you wish you has tweezers for fingers. The banjo bolt seals are p/n F4TZ9A375A. If you find it too hard to get to you can take a dremel or something and cut the webbing away.

Yes when the fuel pump guts internally leak it will leak fuel out of the weep hole into the valley. Pull the pump STRAIGHT UP, do not wiggle it or it will break off in the block. Be careful to not let the plunger fall into the block when the whole deal comes out. You can turn the engine over by the alternator pulley to get the fuel pump cam lobe up as much as possible to keep the plunger from falling in. That will also help push the pump out after you get the mounting bolts loose.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2020 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by 97-psd
You might want to be careful with that 3/8 fuel line. Most of that stuff is not rated for diesel. It will break down in pretty short order. It can leak and send crap into your fuel bowl. If you didn’t ask the counter guy for diesel rated stuff I would double check it to prevent future problems.
Thanks for the heads up. I don't think I specified for diesel, so I'll keep an eye out for degradation.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2020 | 01:17 PM
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Sorry bbyrnes1 for jumping in on your thread, thanks for the PN on the rings! I thought my issue was exact as yours, but I just pulled my pump and the o-ring was fine. (plunger came up straight, thanks for tip on removing) It is the weeze hole on the bottom leaking on mine. I too need to do new rubber fuel lines and these blue OEM lines seem nice and rugged, F4TZ-9324-DA, may go with them.
 
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Originally Posted by bbyrnes1
Thanks for the heads up. I don't think I specified for diesel, so I'll keep an eye out for degradation.
i overlooked it when I first did my efuel. It took about a year before it started to leak. Changed to the correct line and it has been fine ever since.

It should also be available on the bulk spools.
 
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