Notices
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel  
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: DP Tuner

I dont get it...

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 28, 2020 | 10:48 AM
  #1  
Bombguy2's Avatar
Bombguy2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
I dont get it...

2002 F250 w/ 7.3 with NO mods other than a Banks Cold air intake. 164k, fresh oil change.

I have had this truck at the ford dealer 3 times and each time its always the same... ICP failure. Literally it was 478miles since the last ICP was replaced at the dealership. This truck is a Farm truck so it mostly sits. I take it into town for feed and stuff but its the same story.. above 50mph and using TORQUE Pro to get values, everything seems fine. Drop below that and i almost assuredly gonna stall.

Yesterday going into town, I opened Torque pro and had the wife drive.....after the truck warmed up we left... I start watching the values and 2 miles into the trip came the first stop... this was the first stall. The values are as follows after stalling and before restart which she starts right back up.

HPOP : 521,486,454,439,378,321,274,196,87,21.3,13.7 (PSI) ( these values dropped off and the truck was getting ready to die.)
IPR: 14.7%
vbATT 12.4V
EOT 190.9F
EBP 15.9 PSI
INJ PW 600.0
MAP 14.2PSI
MFUEL 0.0 MG/STROKE
TRANSFL 139.4F
REVS 0
INTAKE 14.2 INTAKE
TIMING ADV -64
VACUUM -.49 IN/Hg
SPEED 0

The Pig tail was replaced as wellwith the first sensor change . No oil present on pigtail or in the sensor itself. If I unplug the pigtail..I get about 750 psi at idle...plug it back in and its about 525 at idle

I am having a hard time believing that im constantly getting bad ICP sensors from the dealer.

Would anyone have any other things that I can try?

Thanks in advance.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2020 | 11:03 AM
  #2  
Jdeshler's Avatar
Jdeshler
Fleet Mechanic
10 Year Member
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 1,895
Likes: 32
Unplug the sensor and see how it runs. The sensors at the parts houses and some dealers are notorious junk, make sure the dealer gets you an International part. Make the socket or grab one for about 30 bucks to remove it and save a little coin. I took mine to the dealership about 6 years ago and it cost 1600 bucks
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2020 | 11:03 AM
  #3  
CousinCarl's Avatar
CousinCarl
Fleet Mechanic
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Joined: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,321
Likes: 250
From: North Texas
Ford dealer? Using motorcraft?
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2020 | 11:26 AM
  #4  
Bombguy2's Avatar
Bombguy2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by Jdeshler
Unplug the sensor and see how it runs. The sensors at the parts houses and some dealers are notorious junk, make sure the dealer gets you an International part. Make the socket or grab one for about 30 bucks to remove it and save a little coin. I took mine to the dealership about 6 years ago and it cost 1600 bucks
I try it now... going about 20 miles to my dads place.. i see what happens and update you in a little bit.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2020 | 12:16 PM
  #5  
SkySkiJason's Avatar
SkySkiJason
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,782
Likes: 2,142
From: N.GA Mountains
Club FTE Gold Member
With ICP unplugged, the value you see on scan tool is not a real number.

If truck does not stall with it unplugged, you’ll need a new ICP sensor.

My first suspect would be the ‘tin’ nut on IPR is loose/fallen off. If that is good and ICP sensor is not the problem - you’re likely looking at IPR or HPOP issue.
 
Reply
Old Apr 28, 2020 | 06:15 PM
  #6  
Bombguy2's Avatar
Bombguy2
Thread Starter
|
Junior User
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 88
Likes: 0
Originally Posted by SkySkiJason
With ICP unplugged, the value you see on scan tool is not a real number.

If truck does not stall with it unplugged, you’ll need a new ICP sensor.

My first suspect would be the ‘tin’ nut on IPR is loose/fallen off. If that is good and ICP sensor is not the problem - you’re likely looking at IPR or HPOP issue.
Using Torque pro and with the ICP unplugged, I was able to go and do what i needed to with no issues.

the HPOP value that I seen was 729.6 and it increased as the accelerator was depressed. It never stalled or shuddered one time.

The tin nut on the IPR is tight and was tight the whole time.

So with being said...do i have a bad ICP sensor? if so what is the International part number? Thanks

 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2020 | 12:54 AM
  #7  
aawlberninf350's Avatar
aawlberninf350
It's a Van Gogh
15 Year Member
Photogenic
Shutterbug
Liked
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 7,795
Likes: 1,326
From: Elk Grove, CA
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by Bombguy2
Using Torque pro and with the ICP unplugged, I was able to go and do what i needed to with no issues.

the HPOP value that I seen was 729.6 and it increased as the accelerator was depressed. It never stalled or shuddered one time.

The tin nut on the IPR is tight and was tight the whole time.

So with being said...do i have a bad ICP sensor? if so what is the International part number? Thanks
Yeah I think that proves it.

Ford PN F6TZ-9F838-A
IH PN 1807329C92
 
Reply
Old Apr 29, 2020 | 06:51 AM
  #8  
SkySkiJason's Avatar
SkySkiJason
Hotshot
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 12,782
Likes: 2,142
From: N.GA Mountains
Club FTE Gold Member
Originally Posted by aawlberninf350
Yeah I think that proves it.

Ford PN F6TZ-9F838-A
IH PN 1807329C92
Agreed.

https://www.riffraffdiesel.com/injec...-sensor-97-03/

With ICP unplugged the PCM creates a default value for the engine to run.
 
Reply
FTE Stories

Ford Trucks for Ford Truck Enthusiasts

story-0

Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

 Brett Foote
story-3

2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

 Brett Foote
story-6

5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

 Joe Kucinski
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Cruiseomatic
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
3
Apr 15, 2019 05:45 AM
HKusp
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
1
May 9, 2018 08:49 AM
lucas13dourado
1994.5 - 1997 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
15
Jul 22, 2013 08:32 PM
lassink
6.0L Power Stroke Diesel
9
Feb 3, 2013 09:50 PM
cef2lion
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
10
Jan 15, 2007 11:48 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:35 PM.

story-0
Ford's 2001 Explorer Sportsman Concept Looks For a New Home

Slideshow: Ford's bizarre fishing-themed Explorer concept has resurfaced after spending decades largely forgotten.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:07:46


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Best Ford Truck Engines We Miss the Most!

Slideshow: The 10 best Ford truck engines we miss the most.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 13:09:47


VIEW MORE
story-2
2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road: Better Than a Raptor R?

Slideshow: first look at the 810 hp 2026 Shelby F-150 Off-Road!

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-12 12:50:07


VIEW MORE
story-3
2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package First Look: 12 Things You NEED to Know!

Slideshow: Everything You Need to Know about the 2027 Super Duty Carhartt Package!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-05-07 17:51:06


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Most Surprising 2026 Ford Truck Features!

Slideshow: 10 most surprising Ford truck options/features in 2026.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:17:22


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Ford Trucks Coming to Mecum Indy 2026

Slideshow: Here are the top 10 Fords coming to Mecum Indy 2026.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:49:49


VIEW MORE
story-6
5 Best / 5 Worst Ford Truck Wheels of All Time

Slideshow: The 5 best and 5 worst Ford truck wheels of all time

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:49:01


VIEW MORE
story-7
Ford Super Duty: 5 Things Owners LOVE, 5 Things They LOATHE!

Slideshow: Ranking the 5 things owners love about their Super Duty and 5 things they don't

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 16:36:49


VIEW MORE
story-8
Every 2026 Ford Truck Engine RANKED from WORST to FIRST!

Slideshow: Ranking all 12 Ford truck engines available in 2026.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 13:32:20


VIEW MORE
story-9
The Best F-150 Deal of Every Trim Level (XL through Raptor)

Slideshow: The best Ford F-150 deal for every trim level (XL through Raptor)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-21 15:59:01


VIEW MORE